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I've also never had a problem with Botach going as far back as 2010. Something went wrong. Mr. GunsNGear's videos are the reason I purchased Battlesteel plates. Long lead times 6/12 weeks but if the Dems win in Nov you are going to need it. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. @Dozap This add is for 3A, so less than 3. Just as with AR500's steel plates, these plates lack a true NIJ certification. I'd much rather deploy with my ESAPIs vs these, but for $99 I have no issues throwing them in my personal plate carrier. The plates you may be thinking of are the RMA1189 and RMA1199 (see here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rw5Txfm13NxHR1zJhwpr45seCT3lTmjnXMPitQxcfvU/edit#gid=0 ) which used a foam edge to make 8x10 plates into 10x12. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". And the fact of the matter is, the Chinese aren't running a charity. Wi P, Nope, the L4 plates I got were 2 for $99. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.We are Not Accepting Returns or Exchanges For Any PPE Equipment or Ballistic Items.. . They're almost a scam, hugely dependent on influencers and paid youtube "reviews" in order to move stock. Every review could be wrong on everything? Botach also offers a line of Level III+ plates from the same company that are NIJ certiifed and on the Ballistic Armor Compliance List, subject to retesting every 10 months, factory inspection, etc etc https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-ballistic-plates-m855-5-56mm-ap-protection-10x12-shooters-cut-only-4-2-lbs/. This business is sucks! Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Provided by Google Tag Manager to experiment advertisement efficiency of websites using their services. The __qca cookie is associated with Quantcast. Later that week we went out to a buddy's property and proceeded to shoot it with 3 rounds of M855A1 out of an 18" barrel at around 10 feet's distance (the 18" was the longest barrel we had with us) and our desire was to do a worst case scenario as opposed to trying to emulate NIJ Level IV testing protocol. These "rings" are TYPICALLY indicative of foam being used around the edges to make them less fragile to being dropped, but it's also a way to cut weight. I dont have dinner plate armor. I have nothing against the Chinese personally, but extremely shady business practices are very common with Chinese manufacturers. Youtube videos- often with affiliate links or commissions if one purchases from a link the Youtube channel provides- are not scientific testing. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Botach also offers a line of Level III+ plates from the same company that are NIJ certiifed and on the Ballistic Armor Compliance List, subject to retesting every 10 months, factory inspection, etc etc https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-ballistic-plates-m855-5-56mm-ap-protection-10x12-shooters-cut-only-4-2-lbs/. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Hesco 4400, but really the Hoplite 26605. I get "concerns" and questions. Eligible for purchase at a local blue label supplier found on the GLOCK dealer locator. They are hard to beat for weight and thickness and multi curve regardless of cost. Maybe hes a shill for another company? $100 a plate is not at all bad for a light-weight L4 plate. How about testing with SBRs? These plates are cheaper for a reason. what do you all think of mrgunsngear on youtube? Battle Steel Level IIIA Emergency Ballistic Armor is well-reviewed: Daily Deal Disclaimer: The product represented in this AmmoLand News announcement is a short-term money-saving deal we find at third party retailers unrelated to AmmoLand Inc. Be forewarned that many of these deals will sell quickly or potentially expire in a few hours from the initial online publishing time or date. It pisses me off. Wrap around hook and loop fastener cummberbund and adjustable shoulder straps.- Fits: Medium to XL.- Front panel measures 16.5"W X 16.0"H (from bottom of neck cut). My life and my Wifes life are worth L4, multi-curve steel, with trauma pads, full collars and brassards. I do not see myself running around in LIIIA armor, hence my post. Battle Steel Level III+ Armor Plates: Can Budget Lightweight Armor Stop M855? Not unexpected. Everything else is L3+ or L4. My casualty kit isnt an IFAk, its designed for mass casualty and is aRead more . Poly/ceramics are good for one go around, ceramics are NOT multi-shot tolerant, multi-curve steel plates with trauma pads are really the way to go, and even after taking hits, are ready to do it all over again The pattern element in the name contains the unique identity number of the account or website it relates to. - Exterior body armor pockets for hard/soft plates/panels. Like you have to give a little man to the videos. What doesnt kill me better start running. Check w Botach direct or AR 500. Battle Steel Level IV armor plates seem to be an incredible value. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Must be some garbage ass factory making both plates. You claim I made multiple mistakes but you open up with one right away and only really correct me on the lack of padding, which is still partially accurate as there is a concerning lack of thickness. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Or are they not? YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen - 2. Rear panel measures 21.5"W X 18.5"H (from bottom of neck cut). $325.00 FREE S&H, Brownells Coupon Codes ~ www.brownells.com Updated Monthly. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. We then proceeded to shoot the plate a bunch of times to see what would get a passthrough - the only other penetration was from some 8mm directly on top of an M855A1 impact hole. This cookie can only be read from the domain they are set on and will not track any data while browsing through other sites. If the price is higher on Botach website LOG IN to your account or if available use the MAKE AN OFFER option to get the Best Price -. I wanted something for my wife, so I put them in a minimalist carrier. Are penetrations being cut? In comparison, the cheapest US made, NIJ certified armor plate is 8.3 lbs, $135 per plate and 1" thick. Are they NIJ Certified and Listed for Level III protection (there is no Level III+ NIJ standard at this time as far as I'm aware)? Finnky, I dunno what you do but I would not trust these plates period. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. 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It irritates me. FN Summer of Free Gear - BUY AN FN 509. See, if you were to do what most manufacturers do, and put full ceramic material from edge to edge- meaning you have protection from edge to edge- you would add a considerable amount of weight. Not only are these tests incredibly easy to fudge, even on accident, but they cast a large shadow of doubt and mystery. Its a trade off. They're also being made by underpaid workers and quality control may be non existent. At that price, you can outfit the whole family. That gets you set up for under $200. So both the recommended plates at the top are single curvewhats the go-to budget-but-not-crap double curve option? Anyone have a source on whether or not these are multi-curve? They claim to be "tested" at HP White Labs, but what level of testing is done and how often testing is done is not known. Starting to wish I had read them BEFORE I gave them my money. Unfortunately. Can any one ID the rifle on the taliban dude, Press J to jump to the feed. A variation of the _gat cookie set by Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager to allow website owners to track visitor behaviour and measure site performance. Because if you dont watch any reviews or read anything about the things you buy on daily basis then ok. Plus unless that plate was properly stabilized it makes matters even worse. They weigh a bit more, but they absorb a lot more hits. Additionally, we shot the plate with 7.62 m80 from a 14.5" barrel, 6.5 grendel 123gr eld-m from a 12" barrel, 6.5 swede 139gr fmj yugo ppu from a 29.1" barrel, .45 230gr fmj, 9mm 115gr fmj, .357 Maxim out of a 16", 80 rounds of .22lr (we just wanted to see if it was possible to drill through striking the same area repeatedly - it wasn't). /S, I've seen people ask if they could cut steel targets into armor plates so this isnt an entirely unimaginable take. This cookie, set by Cloudflare, is used to support Cloudflare Bot Management.
You may have noticed a .5" "border" or "ring" around the edge of these plates. The Safelife stuff is probably chinese though, and not NIJ certed. They're level IV "tested", thin at .8 inches, light weight at 5.5 lbs and are just $99 per armor plate. No. Where is LongFri based in and where are the plates manufactured? That however doesnt mean its not worth the low price and that they are morons that are ill equipped. These sales are not eligible for direct purchases from GLOCK Inc."https://us.glock.com/en/buy/blue-label-programP.S. AmmoLand Inc can not correct, change, or help you return or warranty products purchased from other businesses online. - Exterior body armor pockets for hard/soft plates/panels.- Exterior body armor pockets will accommodate 11"W X 14"H soft armor panels or 11"W X 14"H X 1"D hard armor plates.- Inside the armor pockets includes a height strap with hook and loop fasteners to adjust how high/low the smaller armor plate/panel sits inside the pocket. Im just saying your main problem is that its made in China, the sales revolve on YouTube marketing, no backing, foam, not certified. One new winner* is announced every week! Looking to get carriers and armor for the family (3 of us) and looking at armor now. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Medium To XL CarrierProduct Features:- Discreet Plate Carrier with external pocket for hard or soft body armor. Wait, $140 multi curve ceramics? AmmoLand Inc (operating as AmmoLand News, at www.ammoland.com) is not responsible for changing prices, inventory availability, or expiration dates or for what you agree to purchase from these affiliate-link promoted websites. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Unless youre pretty big, the 3.5-4 lb difference per plate is very noticeable. Prove it. They now have a Shooter's Cut option that saves some Ounces. Or is he a paid shill too? The L3A gets you busted ribs if you get hit by anything bigger than .38 spc, Like I said, I only have L3, not 3A in my medic kit, it isnt what Id use anywhere else and thats because the angle somebody might shoot at me would be very different if I was working on someoneRead more , Yeah, okay, 2 L4 plates for $100, whats your life worth???
I've also never had a problem with Botach going as far back as 2010. Something went wrong. Mr. GunsNGear's videos are the reason I purchased Battlesteel plates. Long lead times 6/12 weeks but if the Dems win in Nov you are going to need it. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. @Dozap This add is for 3A, so less than 3. Just as with AR500's steel plates, these plates lack a true NIJ certification. I'd much rather deploy with my ESAPIs vs these, but for $99 I have no issues throwing them in my personal plate carrier. The plates you may be thinking of are the RMA1189 and RMA1199 (see here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rw5Txfm13NxHR1zJhwpr45seCT3lTmjnXMPitQxcfvU/edit#gid=0 ) which used a foam edge to make 8x10 plates into 10x12. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". And the fact of the matter is, the Chinese aren't running a charity. Wi P, Nope, the L4 plates I got were 2 for $99. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.We are Not Accepting Returns or Exchanges For Any PPE Equipment or Ballistic Items.. . They're almost a scam, hugely dependent on influencers and paid youtube "reviews" in order to move stock. Every review could be wrong on everything? Botach also offers a line of Level III+ plates from the same company that are NIJ certiifed and on the Ballistic Armor Compliance List, subject to retesting every 10 months, factory inspection, etc etc https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-ballistic-plates-m855-5-56mm-ap-protection-10x12-shooters-cut-only-4-2-lbs/. This business is sucks! Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Provided by Google Tag Manager to experiment advertisement efficiency of websites using their services. The __qca cookie is associated with Quantcast. Later that week we went out to a buddy's property and proceeded to shoot it with 3 rounds of M855A1 out of an 18" barrel at around 10 feet's distance (the 18" was the longest barrel we had with us) and our desire was to do a worst case scenario as opposed to trying to emulate NIJ Level IV testing protocol. These "rings" are TYPICALLY indicative of foam being used around the edges to make them less fragile to being dropped, but it's also a way to cut weight. I dont have dinner plate armor. I have nothing against the Chinese personally, but extremely shady business practices are very common with Chinese manufacturers. Youtube videos- often with affiliate links or commissions if one purchases from a link the Youtube channel provides- are not scientific testing. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Botach also offers a line of Level III+ plates from the same company that are NIJ certiifed and on the Ballistic Armor Compliance List, subject to retesting every 10 months, factory inspection, etc etc https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-ballistic-plates-m855-5-56mm-ap-protection-10x12-shooters-cut-only-4-2-lbs/. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Hesco 4400, but really the Hoplite 26605. I get "concerns" and questions. Eligible for purchase at a local blue label supplier found on the GLOCK dealer locator. They are hard to beat for weight and thickness and multi curve regardless of cost. Maybe hes a shill for another company? $100 a plate is not at all bad for a light-weight L4 plate. How about testing with SBRs? These plates are cheaper for a reason. what do you all think of mrgunsngear on youtube? Battle Steel Level IIIA Emergency Ballistic Armor is well-reviewed: Daily Deal Disclaimer: The product represented in this AmmoLand News announcement is a short-term money-saving deal we find at third party retailers unrelated to AmmoLand Inc. Be forewarned that many of these deals will sell quickly or potentially expire in a few hours from the initial online publishing time or date. It pisses me off. Wrap around hook and loop fastener cummberbund and adjustable shoulder straps.- Fits: Medium to XL.- Front panel measures 16.5"W X 16.0"H (from bottom of neck cut). My life and my Wifes life are worth L4, multi-curve steel, with trauma pads, full collars and brassards. I do not see myself running around in LIIIA armor, hence my post. Battle Steel Level III+ Armor Plates: Can Budget Lightweight Armor Stop M855? Not unexpected. Everything else is L3+ or L4. My casualty kit isnt an IFAk, its designed for mass casualty and is aRead more . Poly/ceramics are good for one go around, ceramics are NOT multi-shot tolerant, multi-curve steel plates with trauma pads are really the way to go, and even after taking hits, are ready to do it all over again The pattern element in the name contains the unique identity number of the account or website it relates to. - Exterior body armor pockets for hard/soft plates/panels. Like you have to give a little man to the videos. What doesnt kill me better start running. Check w Botach direct or AR 500. Battle Steel Level IV armor plates seem to be an incredible value. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Select the department you want to search in. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. Must be some garbage ass factory making both plates. You claim I made multiple mistakes but you open up with one right away and only really correct me on the lack of padding, which is still partially accurate as there is a concerning lack of thickness. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Or are they not? YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen - 2. Rear panel measures 21.5"W X 18.5"H (from bottom of neck cut). $325.00 FREE S&H, Brownells Coupon Codes ~ www.brownells.com Updated Monthly. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. We then proceeded to shoot the plate a bunch of times to see what would get a passthrough - the only other penetration was from some 8mm directly on top of an M855A1 impact hole. This cookie can only be read from the domain they are set on and will not track any data while browsing through other sites. If the price is higher on Botach website LOG IN to your account or if available use the MAKE AN OFFER option to get the Best Price -. I wanted something for my wife, so I put them in a minimalist carrier. Are penetrations being cut? In comparison, the cheapest US made, NIJ certified armor plate is 8.3 lbs, $135 per plate and 1" thick. Are they NIJ Certified and Listed for Level III protection (there is no Level III+ NIJ standard at this time as far as I'm aware)? Finnky, I dunno what you do but I would not trust these plates period. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Receive up to $50 back on select SCCY firearms, Okay Surefeed AR-15 .223 Rem / 5.56 30-Round Magazine 10-Pack - $119.99, LE Trade-In Glock 22 Gen 4 with 3 Magazines - $354.99, Stoeger STR-9C 9mm Compact 1 Mag 1 Backstrap - $199 (Email For Price) ($174.99 after $25 MIR), Sig Sauer P226 9mm Pistol Used, Semi-Auto, 4.4" Barrel - Surplus Good Condition - $799.99, Laugo Alien Performance 9mm Threaded 4.8" Barrel 17+1 (2x) Magazines Pistol - $5100, Holosun HS407CO X2 8MOA Open Circle Reflex Sight - $179.99, Glock G43X Sub-Compact 9mm Luger 3.41" 10+1 Black nDLC Steel w/Front Serrations Slide Black Polymer Grip Fixed Sights - $407.79 (click the Email For Price button to get this price), **Blue Label** Glock 17, 19, 19X, 22, 34, 43, 45, 48 Handguns from $358, https://us.glock.com/en/buy/blue-label-program, PMC Ammunition Bronze Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail 55 Grain Brass .223 Rem 1000 Rd Case - $442.99. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. It irritates me. FN Summer of Free Gear - BUY AN FN 509. See, if you were to do what most manufacturers do, and put full ceramic material from edge to edge- meaning you have protection from edge to edge- you would add a considerable amount of weight. Not only are these tests incredibly easy to fudge, even on accident, but they cast a large shadow of doubt and mystery. Its a trade off. They're also being made by underpaid workers and quality control may be non existent. At that price, you can outfit the whole family. That gets you set up for under $200. So both the recommended plates at the top are single curvewhats the go-to budget-but-not-crap double curve option? Anyone have a source on whether or not these are multi-curve? They claim to be "tested" at HP White Labs, but what level of testing is done and how often testing is done is not known. Starting to wish I had read them BEFORE I gave them my money. Unfortunately. Can any one ID the rifle on the taliban dude, Press J to jump to the feed. A variation of the _gat cookie set by Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager to allow website owners to track visitor behaviour and measure site performance. Because if you dont watch any reviews or read anything about the things you buy on daily basis then ok. Plus unless that plate was properly stabilized it makes matters even worse. They weigh a bit more, but they absorb a lot more hits. Additionally, we shot the plate with 7.62 m80 from a 14.5" barrel, 6.5 grendel 123gr eld-m from a 12" barrel, 6.5 swede 139gr fmj yugo ppu from a 29.1" barrel, .45 230gr fmj, 9mm 115gr fmj, .357 Maxim out of a 16", 80 rounds of .22lr (we just wanted to see if it was possible to drill through striking the same area repeatedly - it wasn't). /S, I've seen people ask if they could cut steel targets into armor plates so this isnt an entirely unimaginable take. This cookie, set by Cloudflare, is used to support Cloudflare Bot Management.
You may have noticed a .5" "border" or "ring" around the edge of these plates. The Safelife stuff is probably chinese though, and not NIJ certed. They're level IV "tested", thin at .8 inches, light weight at 5.5 lbs and are just $99 per armor plate. No. Where is LongFri based in and where are the plates manufactured? That however doesnt mean its not worth the low price and that they are morons that are ill equipped. These sales are not eligible for direct purchases from GLOCK Inc."https://us.glock.com/en/buy/blue-label-programP.S. AmmoLand Inc can not correct, change, or help you return or warranty products purchased from other businesses online. - Exterior body armor pockets for hard/soft plates/panels.- Exterior body armor pockets will accommodate 11"W X 14"H soft armor panels or 11"W X 14"H X 1"D hard armor plates.- Inside the armor pockets includes a height strap with hook and loop fasteners to adjust how high/low the smaller armor plate/panel sits inside the pocket. Im just saying your main problem is that its made in China, the sales revolve on YouTube marketing, no backing, foam, not certified. One new winner* is announced every week! Looking to get carriers and armor for the family (3 of us) and looking at armor now. Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. Medium To XL CarrierProduct Features:- Discreet Plate Carrier with external pocket for hard or soft body armor. Wait, $140 multi curve ceramics? AmmoLand Inc (operating as AmmoLand News, at www.ammoland.com) is not responsible for changing prices, inventory availability, or expiration dates or for what you agree to purchase from these affiliate-link promoted websites. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Unless youre pretty big, the 3.5-4 lb difference per plate is very noticeable. Prove it. They now have a Shooter's Cut option that saves some Ounces. Or is he a paid shill too? The L3A gets you busted ribs if you get hit by anything bigger than .38 spc, Like I said, I only have L3, not 3A in my medic kit, it isnt what Id use anywhere else and thats because the angle somebody might shoot at me would be very different if I was working on someoneRead more , Yeah, okay, 2 L4 plates for $100, whats your life worth???