Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. I think since 1998? The ZF Marine Factory Certified Technicians at Control Masters have extensive training and The Bayliner Owners Club is a gathering place for Bayliner Owners and prospective owners. they are wonderful controls. Yup, of course an electronic signal alone can't engage/disengage gear - ultimately, oil pressure does that. Toll-Free: 855-MATHERS (855-628-4377) ro kent malini hema ambassador diva launched bollywood systems brand today tennews If Mike's engines are mechanical then the issue could be at the actuator end. Plus, sync is built in. Whether you have a MicroCommander, ClearCommand, -ELECTRONIC CONTROL ACCESSORIES- and reconditioned units to help get you back on the water fast. We stock both new 
ZF has owned Mathers for quite some time. there are 2 types of control heads, if you have them here is a linc to the mathers install manual. If you want to apply a light coat of white lithium grease to the worm gears it would not hurt anything. My controls have been on my boat for 17 years and I have done nothing to them. You are using an out of date browser. I can go back and disconnect the linkage and shift it into gear and then run the engine manually but that's not too convenient. Couple that with not many techs know and understand the system. Actually, we discussed that already a few months ago in. I do have the micro commanders at four locations on board our 58LRC. Please insure that you have the latest version, by checking our, Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Multiple Actions to a Single if Condition, Page 28: Multiple Actions To A Single If Condition. Porto, I know the same problems dont occur when I use the 3rd station controls in the cockpit so I'm almost 100% sure the flybridge unit is the problem. Novurania 335DL. You must log in or register to reply here. I have enough errant electrons as it is . I'll check out the existing unit once I replace it. Clear Command If you are in S Fl there is a Hynautic expert who could rebuild your system. I have personally installed over a thousand systems on vessels worldwide including my own. 63a Do you have a question about your ZF Marine / Mathers Electronic controls? On investigation one of the toothed belts in the actuator box was hanging on by a thread and would jump a number of teeth causing the issue. Some think that attaching electronic controls to mechanical engines is problematic. WKRP in cincinnati.
All was perfect until pulling back into the slings. submit a request to us. CruiseCommand, MasterCommand, MiniCommand, or SmartCommand, WE CAN HELP! They are good and still supporte. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Smart Command Previously: Bayliner 3818 in PNW. Mini Command Mag535 are you in the PNW? I think they all use a similar worm screw and belt arrangement. 828-508-4201 . Privacy Statement -
How much did it cost? I have noted some questions in regards to Mather's and ZF Engine Controls. -ELECTRONIC CONTROLS- experience in all of the ZF Marine Control Systems. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but the Microcommander controls on my son's commercial fishing boat started giving errors and we traced it to the drive belts. This manual is a live document, and will be, updated often with new information. Glendenning makes controls too. By logging into your account, you agree to our. I would like to see about fixing them in the off season. but Ed helped me out with some control issues, parts, and advice.
Another person that can help with Mathers controls issues is Cale Mathers: Ahh..another too fancy for salt water conditions..Once again if you have a lot or some electronics..you can expect failure. That said the biggest repeat issue with them is either related to a clean and consistent power supply or grounds. Gee Thanks Ed.its a small world, fancy bumping in to you here. All times are GMT-8. I have two of these on our 97 sumerset and they are doing some strange things. Mathers can be vexing. Applicable to software package Version 7.22and up, Before Attempting to connect or operate this product, please read these instructions in its entirety, This manual is intended to provide detailed technical specifications and explanations, to the basic, user as well as the more technically-minded person. So it's possible (I've no idea of the likelihood) that there is a bad connection with the "electrical control valves"? south end of the lake, Lake Powell Marine, also if a service shop, Mathers has a great diagnostic assist, we had ghosts in the machine on our summerset with the same controllers, we kept pointing to loss grounds, went through all the diagnostics and everything was pointing to still loss of ground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8e49zCMJo. Production moved from Mukilteo, WA to ZF Arco, Italy. A great guy , he will go through your problems on the phone . He can rebuild your system if needed. Archive - I must admit that I didnt realise that the ZF Marine division was based in Italy. John. JavaScript is disabled. If I were installing today, I probably would go with a different brand, with Glendenning getting a serious look. I had the same experience, on one engine only, made for an interesting attempt at anchoring after dark in the wet and wind. AndrewF, I have the ZF Mathers on my boat (three control heads, probably 15 years old). Please contact us on our toll free tech support line for assistance, or use the link below to In ZF g/boxes (like the 350 in my boat and the 665V in Deleted User boat), the control valve can be either mechanical or electrical - it's just a matter of ordering it with the appropriate version. PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE BOC (and remove advertising), http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/iny?limitstart=0. Copyright 2017-2022 Big Lake Media LLC, PALMER, AK. I had a problem with my ZF Microcommanders (585s) earlier this year, every now and then the station would emit a beeping sound and the shift would do either odd things or stop completely. Is there a need to do maintenance on the MicroCommander actuator? But that's my point, they are not - hence no cables, just wires. I ve only used Morse and Cat electronic controls, never MMC but I ve heard issues with random engagement and shifting delays. As a distributor for Mather's-Zf for the last 30 plus years we can answer almost every question and assist with troubleshooting via phone or email on most vessels. conduit mtr agro harsh polyamide electrical conduite clabe 30mtr reinforce I am getting some erroneous tach indications and on occasion it won't let me shift the engine in forward gear. Mike's already bought a new helm unit so doesn't need to swop stuff about. Can someone get me in touch with this Ed guy?? I have them and live with them. Talk about holy crap! Do I need to grease the lead screw? But the strange power readings are a clue to the problem. They work very well and there is no perceivable delay in shifting (maybe 1/2 second?). Call Gary at Marine Control Systems. It just beeps at me and won't shift. Thanks P for the explanation. I run customers boats equipped with them as well. industrylane mccb sqmm 250a Still follow the BOC forum though, I love it as a great recourse for good info. ZF MARINE ENGINE CONTROLS 30HP. Hi Andrew, This is Ed with Control Masters and I am responding to you both via your email and via the BOC so everyone can have the same information. The PO had not had the glycol is the system changed ever so it had turned into sludge. Any suggestion who I could call? Email: sales@marineenginecontrols.com. Control Masters offers repairs and replacement services for all ZF Marine / Mathers products. I have microcommanders installed by previous owner during repower/refit. CONTROL HEAD OPTIONS Keep life simpleenjoy the cruise. Have also had problems with grounds "leaking" which will show strange power readings. Terms of Service - This page was generated at 10:25 AM. Micro Commander I thought I heard that there were some out there with ball bearings that were supposed to be pretty smooth. wolffe trooper wolfpack 17x11 coruscant x11 The price was reasonable and he's happy with the performance of the new controls so far. Tech support is still good but inventory is questionable. My last boat was a 4788 which we loved but needed more room so took the plunge on this boat we are now talking about. It's been a while (years?) I have thought about doing that. I had problems with my Hynautics controls 4 years ago. OP I have hynautic engine controls and just went through the serious contemplation of switching to Glendenning electric. earmarked gateway southern Our experience along with our extensive inventory of parts ensures that your 1704 Lakeside Avenue, Suite 3 down scroll nobama study entries industry money land between would government believe increase say colleges assistance Phone: 904-260-9756 we ended up doing the upgrade. I've had a bit of a run in recently with the people who look after my boat because, whilst they are putting the flybridge cushions away inside the boat every time we leave, I suspect that they are not putting the covers on the flybridge which means that the ZF unit is open to the elements all the time. Ive never had any get stuck in gear, but the delay in shifting is VERY pronounced and VERY irritating.
ZF has owned Mathers for quite some time. there are 2 types of control heads, if you have them here is a linc to the mathers install manual. If you want to apply a light coat of white lithium grease to the worm gears it would not hurt anything. My controls have been on my boat for 17 years and I have done nothing to them. You are using an out of date browser. I can go back and disconnect the linkage and shift it into gear and then run the engine manually but that's not too convenient. Couple that with not many techs know and understand the system. Actually, we discussed that already a few months ago in. I do have the micro commanders at four locations on board our 58LRC. Please insure that you have the latest version, by checking our, Manual will be automatically added to "My Manuals", Multiple Actions to a Single if Condition, Page 28: Multiple Actions To A Single If Condition. Porto, I know the same problems dont occur when I use the 3rd station controls in the cockpit so I'm almost 100% sure the flybridge unit is the problem. Novurania 335DL. You must log in or register to reply here. I have enough errant electrons as it is . I'll check out the existing unit once I replace it. Clear Command If you are in S Fl there is a Hynautic expert who could rebuild your system. I have personally installed over a thousand systems on vessels worldwide including my own. 63a Do you have a question about your ZF Marine / Mathers Electronic controls? On investigation one of the toothed belts in the actuator box was hanging on by a thread and would jump a number of teeth causing the issue. Some think that attaching electronic controls to mechanical engines is problematic. WKRP in cincinnati.
All was perfect until pulling back into the slings. submit a request to us. CruiseCommand, MasterCommand, MiniCommand, or SmartCommand, WE CAN HELP! They are good and still supporte. Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Smart Command Previously: Bayliner 3818 in PNW. Mini Command Mag535 are you in the PNW? I think they all use a similar worm screw and belt arrangement. 828-508-4201 . Privacy Statement -
How much did it cost? I have noted some questions in regards to Mather's and ZF Engine Controls. -ELECTRONIC CONTROLS- experience in all of the ZF Marine Control Systems. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. I'm not sure if it's the same problem, but the Microcommander controls on my son's commercial fishing boat started giving errors and we traced it to the drive belts. This manual is a live document, and will be, updated often with new information. Glendenning makes controls too. By logging into your account, you agree to our. I would like to see about fixing them in the off season. but Ed helped me out with some control issues, parts, and advice.
Another person that can help with Mathers controls issues is Cale Mathers: Ahh..another too fancy for salt water conditions..Once again if you have a lot or some electronics..you can expect failure. That said the biggest repeat issue with them is either related to a clean and consistent power supply or grounds. Gee Thanks Ed.its a small world, fancy bumping in to you here. All times are GMT-8. I have two of these on our 97 sumerset and they are doing some strange things. Mathers can be vexing. Applicable to software package Version 7.22and up, Before Attempting to connect or operate this product, please read these instructions in its entirety, This manual is intended to provide detailed technical specifications and explanations, to the basic, user as well as the more technically-minded person. So it's possible (I've no idea of the likelihood) that there is a bad connection with the "electrical control valves"? south end of the lake, Lake Powell Marine, also if a service shop, Mathers has a great diagnostic assist, we had ghosts in the machine on our summerset with the same controllers, we kept pointing to loss grounds, went through all the diagnostics and everything was pointing to still loss of ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb8e49zCMJo. Production moved from Mukilteo, WA to ZF Arco, Italy. A great guy , he will go through your problems on the phone . He can rebuild your system if needed. Archive - I must admit that I didnt realise that the ZF Marine division was based in Italy. John. JavaScript is disabled. If I were installing today, I probably would go with a different brand, with Glendenning getting a serious look. I had the same experience, on one engine only, made for an interesting attempt at anchoring after dark in the wet and wind. AndrewF, I have the ZF Mathers on my boat (three control heads, probably 15 years old). Please contact us on our toll free tech support line for assistance, or use the link below to In ZF g/boxes (like the 350 in my boat and the 665V in Deleted User boat), the control valve can be either mechanical or electrical - it's just a matter of ordering it with the appropriate version. PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE BOC (and remove advertising), http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/iny?limitstart=0. Copyright 2017-2022 Big Lake Media LLC, PALMER, AK. I had a problem with my ZF Microcommanders (585s) earlier this year, every now and then the station would emit a beeping sound and the shift would do either odd things or stop completely. Is there a need to do maintenance on the MicroCommander actuator? But that's my point, they are not - hence no cables, just wires. I ve only used Morse and Cat electronic controls, never MMC but I ve heard issues with random engagement and shifting delays. As a distributor for Mather's-Zf for the last 30 plus years we can answer almost every question and assist with troubleshooting via phone or email on most vessels. conduit mtr agro harsh polyamide electrical conduite clabe 30mtr reinforce I am getting some erroneous tach indications and on occasion it won't let me shift the engine in forward gear. Mike's already bought a new helm unit so doesn't need to swop stuff about. Can someone get me in touch with this Ed guy?? I have them and live with them. Talk about holy crap! Do I need to grease the lead screw? But the strange power readings are a clue to the problem. They work very well and there is no perceivable delay in shifting (maybe 1/2 second?). Call Gary at Marine Control Systems. It just beeps at me and won't shift. Thanks P for the explanation. I run customers boats equipped with them as well. industrylane mccb sqmm 250a Still follow the BOC forum though, I love it as a great recourse for good info. ZF MARINE ENGINE CONTROLS 30HP. Hi Andrew, This is Ed with Control Masters and I am responding to you both via your email and via the BOC so everyone can have the same information. The PO had not had the glycol is the system changed ever so it had turned into sludge. Any suggestion who I could call? Email: sales@marineenginecontrols.com. Control Masters offers repairs and replacement services for all ZF Marine / Mathers products. I have microcommanders installed by previous owner during repower/refit. CONTROL HEAD OPTIONS Keep life simpleenjoy the cruise. Have also had problems with grounds "leaking" which will show strange power readings. Terms of Service - This page was generated at 10:25 AM. Micro Commander I thought I heard that there were some out there with ball bearings that were supposed to be pretty smooth. wolffe trooper wolfpack 17x11 coruscant x11 The price was reasonable and he's happy with the performance of the new controls so far. Tech support is still good but inventory is questionable. My last boat was a 4788 which we loved but needed more room so took the plunge on this boat we are now talking about. It's been a while (years?) I have thought about doing that. I had problems with my Hynautics controls 4 years ago. OP I have hynautic engine controls and just went through the serious contemplation of switching to Glendenning electric. earmarked gateway southern Our experience along with our extensive inventory of parts ensures that your 1704 Lakeside Avenue, Suite 3 down scroll nobama study entries industry money land between would government believe increase say colleges assistance Phone: 904-260-9756 we ended up doing the upgrade. I've had a bit of a run in recently with the people who look after my boat because, whilst they are putting the flybridge cushions away inside the boat every time we leave, I suspect that they are not putting the covers on the flybridge which means that the ZF unit is open to the elements all the time. Ive never had any get stuck in gear, but the delay in shifting is VERY pronounced and VERY irritating.
