There has been a noticeable increase in refill adapter interest over the last month or so, leading to some very interesting discussions, which in turn has rekindled my interest in this project. It appears that the only pen the Schmidt P8126 refill will fit is the retro 51 series. As a side note, I learned the Seas Connaisseur can easily be converted to fountain pen use with any of the standard Sheaffer Connaisseur nibs, the original Connaisseur Seas nib, a Sheaffer No Nonsense nib, or Sheaffer Balance II nib. I love pens and stationery, but I am admittedly unknowledgeable as to what refills I could use with them. For each refill, they provide a list of compatible products. Looking for fee assistance or respite care? You are correct. Rather late with this post, but I hope it helps! They are not exactly the same in the pictures above but it seems it would fit by reading the text. Gel pens like the Zebra Sarasa line and Pentel Energel dry just as quickly as rollerballs and dont show through paper or feather as much as the watery rollerballs we all used (and, to be fair, enjoyed) for years. Its dark and flows smoothly. A refill test drive, if you will. Just make sure you get the gel and not the aqua roller refills. So let me know which of these refills work for you and which dont. Dear Ana, And of course, hes 100% fabulous! Excellent! visualising Wayne & Garth bowing Not Worthy I am digging around my house to find my 849 to verify that other standard Parker-style refills will also fit. My greatest desire is to be able to use Pilot Hi-Tec C Coleto Refills in a Retro 51 Tornado. If not, any other refill that anyone could suggest which is closer to a ballpoint?
Todays gel pens are as smooth as the smoothest rollerballs, have brighter colors, and last longer. Big thank you to my pal Dan for giving me a list as a starting point. Im trying to figure out a gel refill for my classic Cross twist pen. Ensure you are prepared and ready for both with these tips and tools. The issue is the length of the neck of the required refill, which seems a bit longer than your average Schmidt, Caran Dache or Pilot. Which gel refills would fit the Sheaffer 300 ballpoint? I would love to know if I could get some kind of rollerball or Schmidt refill in my 849. This slightly long haired black beauty loves anything pink and follows our giant ginger Ollie everywhere. Thats what maxmadco.com puts in their new pens. Or perhaps any ideas on how to make your own? I think the refill you are referring to is the very thin one with two narrow points along its body. Thanks a lot for featuring my printed refill adapters as part of your Epic Refill Reference Guide. Now I have measured it. Hopefully, this should make the refills more interchangeable. The ballpoint pens take the widely available Parker G2 style refill, which are available using conventional ballpoint ink or gel ink. I bought my fianc one for her birthday and she has already burnt through the one that came with it. Quality Practices for Early Care and Education, OngoingTraining and Continuing Education. Adam, your best option at the moment is on JetPens. The search continues!! Thanks for the tip! The Cross Click can take a Jetstream refill with some modifications. As far as making a spacer, small plastic tubing is ideal, IMO, (like the back part of cheap ballpoint pen refill) though anything that could be cut down to fit should work. Coming at it from a different perspective: I love the Jetstream Uniball retractable pens in 0.7 and would love to put this refill in a nicer pen. Im hoping to up my professional appearance and hopefully ultimately lose fewer (apparently-disposable) pens to those who borrow mine and cant live without them. Interesting idea but I also have a cool tool that might make this easier for you that Ill be featuring soon! I love Monteverde Broad point ceramic gel refills for Parker style ballpoint pens. 
Thank you for putting in the time to compile this. awesome post. Since reading this Ive modified a purple Pentel LR7 refill for my Retro51 I had to tape the Schmidt end piece to it so it would retract correctly. makes the reuse, repurpose, recycle concept so real . I have a 1970s Hallmark wood fibertip pen that even Hallmark quit making fibertip refills for before 1980. Does anyone know of other more professional, retractable pens (other than Pilot Dr. Grip/G2 Pro) that will take the G2 size refill? Pierre Belvedere Executive Mini Ballpoint For the love of pens, paper, office supplies and a beautiful place to work. i dislike the jet stream 0.5 mm pen(barrel) colours but love the 0.7 mm Ones! Standard Parker refills have a finned design for telescoping mechanisms which may not align with the Caran dAche mechanism. I only discovered after it was delivered that it is too big to actually fit the Rotring the supplied refill is the standard 5.8 mm. A medium refill came with the Parker Rollerball. I have Cross century ii rollerball gel pen and looking for a refills which are made by the companies other than Cross but will work without any modification. Caran DAche offers a refill called the Goliath. Bic worthington rollerball. Ive been searching all morning for this answer. Its a $2 gamble! Most of the Jetstream refills on JetPens are under $2 so it might worth taking a chance and seeing if you can figure out how to get one to fit. Its called the Goliath. Thanks for the informative post! I am new to pen collecting and am actually starting by buying gifts for friends first . Thanks for the listing you saved us plenty of time searching compatible refills. Hard to find but I have Staples order them for me about $20 for a package of 6. The line produced while writing was way too wide for me, so I purchased an official refill, which Parker called Fine. Even that line was too thick for my liking, so I bought Pilot VBall XFine refills (I had been using VBall throw-aways), anticipating that I would need a spacer & a bit of tape toward the bottom of the refill to assure a tighter fit. In some cases, Parker-style refills are a bit too long to fit in the 849 because of the fins on the end. The Ohto rollerball refill seems almost identical by dimensions although I havent tried it. Anyone have any suggestion for a multi-refill pack that comes close to a Pilot G-2 (or uni ball Signo) in feel? Wondered if there were better alternatives to Zebra refils? So it should fit in anything that takes a standard rollerball refill or Pilot G-2 style. Closest to 207 for MB BP is Uni-ball Jetstream 101 (DIY compatible). Which refil is compatible for it?. The Pilot Hi-Tec C refills can be purchased individually or liberated from any Pilot Hi-Tec C pen including the Maica line. He 3D prints the converter tube and then you can slide a standard D1 ballpoint refill into it (available at any Staples, Office Depot or big box store) then when the refill runs out, pull the refill out and put a new one in. It does look awfully similar to a G2 refill but maybe its a slightly different length/width? The Schmidt P8126 will NOT for the Lamy 2000 rollerball. Most D1 refills have a hole in their tail end, so something like a cocktail stick could be used to make up the extra required length, to allow a D1 to replace the Fisher refill in your pen. I put together a quick list of the two adapters hes made that allow use of gel refills (D1 style) with the Parker rollerball. The end can either be covered with a piece of tape or you could use an end cap borrowed from a Pilot G2 refill. Nicely put together post this refill guide is very welcome and most useful. I too would be keen to know if it works before I buy a tornado! On JetPens, you can click on compatible products under the description tab on the product page and determine which line of refills will fit into your pen. Just thought I would throw that out there to help other people save some money since those Lamy refills are $5 a pop!
Wowinkredible! We've created an at-home toolkit you can use to help advocate for resources to support the child care system. I found that Uniball Signo RT refill UMN-138 (0.38mm ball) can be used to replace Schmidt 5888. Amazing information here. Have a Jean Pierre Lepine Slim Winston Rollerball with dried out cartridge marked 609 (Jean Pierre Lepine brand). I could not find this model on any site but eBay. The G2 style is the same shape, but just a touch shorter. The Waterman took about 5mm. Oh, Pepper! Up until now, I havent found anyone with an expired refill who was willing to sacrifice it to Tofty to make a 3D mold for an adapter. Thank you for this awesome reference guide! The D-1 mini refills are about 66-67mm long and there are quite a few refill styles to fit into these pens: Tofty on Shapeways creates 3D printed sleeves for many proprietary refills that allow you to use a D1 refill instead of the harder to find Lamy, Diplomat, Caran dAche and others.
I disassembled them and found that there is is fiber pipe stuck into the back of the rollerball head. Note: I have not tried EVERY refill with every pen so your results might vary. After reading your experience with Shapeways adapters, I wrapped some gaffer tape to fatten up a mini D1 refill and inserted it just enough for proper length into a juice box drinking straw. I have two mechanical pencils, two ballpoint pens (though one is missing the ink), and one fountain pen with an EF sticker on the bottom. Very clever. Amy, I am not Tofty. You might email Cult Pens directly and see if the refills are the same size? Monteverde Poquito. These are standard Rotring 600 pens and pencils which were just rebranded by Levenger. I am trying to find (and probably purchase several) other more accessible options. Thanks. That said, youre kind of torturing me by posting this the Friday before I have a crazy weekend of birthday parties, out-of-town visitors, etc. I am in KC and the Pen Place is a great resource. It is easily done using a box cutter because the body is plastic. My favorite hack (and favorite carry pen) is a Zebra f701 with the f402 click assembly mod (replaces the plastic part from the f701 with the all metal of the f402.) Ive hacked the end off a few refills in my time to make them fit as well. Hope that helps! This post is destined to be referenced from every corner of the interwebs. Then line up the Fisher refill and the lengthened D1 and trim the extra length of the stick, so that both refills are the same length. I know Mont Blanc refills have some threads near the tip of the refill to screw the refill into the pen. Schmidt makes a fine point refill: the barrel says 628 F. The model numbers are 62811 (black ink), 62812 (blue ink), 62813 (red.) Searching for replacement parts for a Schmidt MDR 6, Ive tried many brands of expensive red gel pens, the latest being Pilot G2 .7, and the ink never flows well. The only way to get a finer refill for D1 is to go to a gel and get the Zebra JSB series Gel D1 refills which are available in an 0.4mm size. Sure you can pop the endcap of a MB Rollerball refill with pliers and syringe-fill with fountain pen ink, but why go to the bother when you can get a superior writing experience with less effort? I remember I once stuck a Frixion refill in a Uni-Ball Signo 307 and it worked, does that mean that anything that takes those Signo refills will also take Frixion/Pilot G2 refills? I might pop over to my local pen shop and see if they have any of those pens or refills in stock so I can take a closer look this week. When I put the back-cop on, ink came out. I havent ordered any of the refills from Amazon but the ones I have used have been nice. He thinks hes a righteous dude. Tradeoffs. Does anyone know where I can buy some of these fiber/felt pipes. The P8126 is too fat. I keep meaning to write a post about these. I use a G2 refill for Pilot Frixion in my Moleskine rollerball. If you can find the capped Jetstream (not the thin stick type one, but the one that looks like a proper capped pen), this refill is best because it has a little plastic extender on top, which you can pull out and stick into the normal clicky Jetsream refills afterwards. The refill is this one: Are you aware of anything else larger than Retro 51 that is compatible with the P8126 that has pretty good build quality? Use a sharp pocketknife or Xacto to trim the collar or shoulder off the refill. The Cross Gel inks are far superior and write much smoother than the MB Rollerball refills, last about 5-20 times as long (no ink dry-out) and are less than half the price online. I can find all kinds of references to it on the internet, however have not found an actual place where I can order these. If your pen takes a standard G2/Euro style rollerball refill then you may be able to get a standard refill to fit. The Pilot JuiceUp refills have a similar shape. I also bought 2 Schmidt Fineliner refills (hadnt been able to find fineliners since Monteverde stopped making them) and put them in a Faber-Castell pen and a Parker Frontier. The Euro G2-style refill (very similar to the Pilot G2 but not always the same because of the plastic housing around the metal tip shaft). Caran Dache 849s use a slight modification to the standard Parker style refill. Does anyone know if the refills from the pilot precise retractable V5 gel ink work with the pilot Dr. grip white edition pens? Im a convert to really bold point gel pens I have a few nice Waterman ballpoint pens and would like to convert them to gel bold pens. splain. So I picked up a Jetstream RT refill 1.0mm and it fits without any modification. The Goliath refills are flat on top and allow the click mechanism to grip the top of the refill. I often hack refills out of my Pilot Juice, Energel Needletip and other super fine pens and then retro fit them to go into things like Karas Kustoms Render Ks, Retro 51s and Fisher Space Pens for the same reason youre looking for an alternative refill for the Cross. When you use the Signo .38 refill (whichever one it is) is there any cutting or trimming involved (maybe a question for Carl)? Sorry for being slow to reply. However, The refill is the same size & shape as a Pilot G2, except the Lamy is longer. Anyone able to offer any insight on this yet? Is there a space pen refill that would take the place of a uniball signo 207?
Is there something different between the Moleskine pens? They look like this: http://bit.ly/2flpet6 (Not my image.) I noted above that someone was able to fit a parker style refill into his Sheaffer ballpoint, but I have tried this and the parker refill simply will not fit inside of the 300, simply due to the more narrow tunnel that wont accommodate the fat shoulder of the parker refill. This is such a helpful resource!!! If you have good alternatives for refills for Lamy rollerball and ballpoint pens, let me know. Would love to purchase one asap. As there is a limited range of refills to be found locally (Galway, Ireland), I have to order replacements via the web. All you need is something to put in the back of the pen to keep the refill from going back up in the pen. I have been really loyal to Zebra and I love the black JSB refills and the way the gel in writes. They are going to put Zebra out if business singlehandedly. Both the Schmidt and the G2/Euro Rollerball sizes will give you a lot more options for finer tips. Which rollerball ink is the smoothest? id like to try some other rollerball refills in my starwalker and meisterstuck series. Pilot G2 refills sold in the US have a flat end. I found a Pilot Juice Up 04 for my Lamy Swift perfectly, though why Signo and Energel refills wont fit is a complete mystery. Heres the link for my list : https://www.shapeways.com/designer/chair9/lists, Hi Sean, At the same time I think I wont find anything smoother! I just untwist them a touch. Also are there uef nib replacements sold anywhere for Platinum fountain pens? I am currently using a Pilot G2 with a wee ball of paper in the top of the barrel for my Rotring with a similar hack (a taped-on extender for my Lamy). Mike, Ill look into this and see what I can find out. I dont care that much about fineness of line. It looks like Jet Pens might stock what you need. Thanks, do let me know! Id like to replace the refills with something like a sliccies or hi-tec-c refill, but the plastic barrels on all the Japanese pen refills I love are a bit too wide to slip into the metal casing that holds the space pen refills. I have an Otis .925 hand made sterling silver rollerball pen that i recently rediscovered, but cant find the refill for it. I was wondering if the Pilot G2 refill will fit into a skinner pen casing than the G2 pen? I think Monteverde makes a Lamy compatible refill. If you still have a dried out refill, contact Tofty on Shapeways about making an adapter to fit the pen that will accommodate a standard rollerball, ballpoint or gel refill. And unfortunately, due to the current situation I was unable to visit your website. Waterman Rollerball and Pilot G2 (without its end cap) refills are compatible with the metal Lamy Swift Capless Rollerball pen. Even the name of comparable refill well work. I received the Darth Vader version for Christmas and would love to put it to use, but I cant tolerate the 0.7mm crayon sized standard refill. Most of the rollerball refill reviews I found were years older, not including the latest options. If possible, could you include Waterman in your guide? If you are in the market for a new rollerball pen or refill, you are probably looking to highlight the single most desirable feature of rollerballs: their smoothness. Thanks! What's the state of child care in your state. Thanks for putting in the hard work to create it Ana just fantastic. Any thoughts? They may be a little more expensive but your shipping costs will be considerably lower. Check out the Refill Finder guide by size. Uni SXR-200-05 0.5mm Jetstreams are highly regarded and Zebra have their 4C refills in 04 and 0.5mm, as well as their JSB gel refills 0.4 and 0.5mm. The Shapeways adpaters are a good long term solution. They have blue-black color too. The Parker Rollerball refill seems to be a very specific size according to their web site. Since then I have been expanding the range of adapters that are on offer, with over 30 different refill sizes now having adapters for them. Im a big time ball point pen collector and am glad I found this. Any suggestions? This list is, at best, a guide and not a definitive directory. Casemate retractable gel from Walmart isnt as good but cheap and DIY compatible (all worked with my Rouge Et Noir & Noblesse Oblige BP). There appears to be more plastic on the end of most G2 refills that you might be able to sand down to fit into your Darth Vader pen to get it to fit. The Cross Edge is a retractable rollerball and will take any Signo/Sarasa/G2 gel refill, as well as an unmodified Jetstream refill. No, I didnt. It worked, but a messy hack job to do on a regular basis. Couple of questions: 1) Other than the monteverde capless gel refills is there any other gel or hybrid refill or hack to fit into a montblanc ballpoint? Since the bodies of these refills are plastic, the longer ones can be cut shorter to fit into adapters that could not otherwise take the longer refills. The refills in the video all would fit into rollerball-type pens but the videos included gel and hybrid type inks as well a rollerball ink. I dont have it with me right now, so I cant measure it, but Im somewhat confused. The big thing for me is the writing itself is far better than anything else Ive ever used. I think theyre referred to as Mont Blanc style refills. Initial testing in May 2018 led me to believe that theOhto Ceramic Rollerball refill as the smoothest available, and I still feel thats the case. Let me know if you have more questions. I use 6 of them almost daily, I have 1 on each Journal and Folio that I use for everything from grocery list, to do list, maintenance and upgrades on my vehicles, maintenance and upgrades on my house, my tracking form for all the items I have ordered and are inbound and so on. Has anyone sent you info or added on some of the refills in the SUPER cheap bulk pens youd find in your supply closet from the Big Box stores? Any ideas? I have a Staples brand version of Dr.Grip and could not find the right refill. I tried to send you a message via the Shapeways site, but I got an error message. Ahhhh, that explains so much. Ive looked everywhere for information on this pen and its refills. I guess my budget is
Anyone know of a bold point refill or a hack of another type so I can rescue my nice Waterman ballpoints? I picked up a Franklin Covey retractable ballpoint refill at Staples to try in my Parker Jotter. Almost all parker click ball pens have the same refill, so even better for me. HELP !! But the Indian versions have a kinda less than excellent refills. All you have to do is remove the spring at the bottom of the barrel and screw the nib and Sheaffer cartridge or converter in. However, some pens are designed in such a way that the interior dimensions are too snug to take the P8126. No stutters. Also needs to be an black ink pen, not gel. If the ridge is used to stop the spring, then just find any refills that fit into the pen and wrap a few rounds of electrical tape in place of the ridge. The Pilot G2 style refill, also described as the Schmidt/Euro Rollerball refill size are about 110mm long seems to equal Pilot G2 with Euro and Schmidt, but perhaps I misunderstands something? I wasnt expecting much but have been very impressed. It appears that some of the Frixion refills, particularly those sold in the US market, feature a slot in the end of the refill (like a flathead screwdriver might fit in the slot). What ballpoint refills will also fit both pens? So I came across your website and this is kinda the first article I am reading. Ive heard there may be adaptors etc.. for this but havent seen anything conclusive. The only issue I am still working on is the spring. I just bought another Zebra for the extra inks that come in the package. Anyone else have any experience with this? Im not interested in having to modify it at all. I love the heft, shape, and the gorgeous looks of it; however, the standard sheaffer refills have a very paltry ink flow, even the broad point. Im recording refill/pen compatibility that Ive personally verified, someone else has (specifically) verified, and manufacturer specified compatibility. The Pilot G2 fits, with slight modifications; you have to trim plastic off the section just below the metal tip, and lower where the larger plastic part of the tip holder fits into the main ink barrel. The Pilot Ballpoint Refill might also be compatible. Tru Red Expert Guidance Collection Journals, Bostitch Quietsharp Glow Electric Pencil Sharpener. I lost the spring for my pen that uses a Schmidt ceramic roller 888 F. Do you happen to know how I figure out what size spring I need to make my pen work again? I think that Monteverde is making a fine point gel refill that will work in a Waterman ballpoint pen. Other refills like ballpoint and emulsion seem to have random spots where the ball in the tip goes dry for a fraction of a second then starts wiring again. Have you heard anything about a good alternative for a Lamy Safari rollerball refill? very expensive, from other countries usually Following the positive result from this experiment, I assumed cutting an existing refill would create a reusable adapter for most brands. Does anyone know who makes a gell, fibertip or rollerball refill that would fit my wood Hallmark fiberertip pen that has been unusable for over 40 years? Thank you. A good refill for Lamy Safari and Al-Star pens is the Jetstream refill. The mechanical pencils will take any standard leads just make sure you purchase the correct lead diameter for the pencil (for example 0.5mm, 0.7mm, etc).
Thank you so much for the info you provided 2 years ago! It seems this model requires a refill with an unusually long neck. Tape was my first solution too. I have modified a Zebra-701 and Zebra-402 to work with Fisher pressurized ballpoint refills. I can feel a lot a drag where it feels like is a dry tip dragging across the paper. I searched mini pen refill on eBay and found those, plus listings for 5- or 10-piece lots of generic medium point refills, and for Zebra fine point refills. What an amazingly helpful post, Ana. I bought a Jetsream multi and the inks are terrible. https://us.moleskine.com/roller-gel-refill-plus-black/p0361. Stay informed, connected, and inspired in an ever-changing ECE landscape. Anyone know if there are any gel refills that would fit a pen that came with a Pilot RFJSGP cartridge? I am a total sucker for the Pilot V5 RT retractable gel penespecially in blue. Ive been on a mission to find a cartridge refill for the pen, with a smaller line size/tip size. Then theres the D1 sized refills. I love the smooth feel but unfortunately, I am a student in exam season, so Ive been going through at least two refills a week with essays and revision and whatnot. Where can I find an extra fine blue refill for my Parker ball pen? Though finding 0.38mm tips in Euro pen refills can be a bit of a challenge. This extender is the perfect fit for the Lamy pens mentioned above. Also described as the Schmidt/Euro Rollerball refill size are about 110mm long: Using a spring around the tip of the refill will help to stabilize these. As Ana correctly stated above in the article; Id be happy to help create custom refill adapter solutions to suit specific requirements, so long as its physically possible and Im given enough information.