- SJX. If you suit the smaller it doesnt mean its inferior! It was named after the featherweight aircraft designed by Alberto Santos-Dumont. The Panthre boasts a similar dial, case shape, and square bezel with eight screws; however, its lines are somewhat softer and more refined due to its five-piece link bracelet. In 1987, the Santos de Cartier was again redesigned and named the Santos Galbe (French for curved). My partner has the mid size Santos it suits her and me, it looks better as it has no date which personally neither of us like. Sorry I am bit late with the reply. i have a 7.5in wrist size. One caveat: the medium one would need extra links to fit my wrist.
The crown, in turn, has been outfitted with a crown guard ever since the debut of the Santos 100 in 2004. If youre looking to buy a current Cartier Santos, you can save up to 20% off the recommended retail price by shopping on Chrono24. The watch is also typically heavy. Santos-Dumont had previously approached Cartier and requested a watch he could read without letting go of the flight controls. The Tank is another Cartier classic. The watch became favored not just by Santos-Dumont, but also by other customers.
A fat rim with screws has always been the hallmark of this model, but in making it contemporary and maintaining some of that world-famous Cartier elegance I suspect the designers had to pull every trick not to make the watch look too bulky. Important Notice regarding Condition Reports. Cartier continues to produce the Santos de Cartier and Santos-Dumont, which were redesigned in 2018 and 2019 respectively. That actually is the same with the 35mm version. In my years as an editor at Esquire, Ive written quite a few articles on car design. So you really must bear in mind the purpose before purchasing either. Functionally it has a date, while both Santos 100 have none. It is a reliable and long established calibre, especially for ladies watches, having been introduced sometime in the early seventies. And then there is my personal favourite the Santos Galbee XL. In response to ng717s post below, here is a detailed comparison of the three steel Santos models. In 1987, the Santos was completely revised and relaunched as the Santos Galbe. (This is what went wrong with the Rolex Explorer a couple of years ago, for example; the case grew but the hands didnt, thereby changing the proportions of the watch; something they updated a few years later. The latter is notably thick as well with a height of just over 9mm. The 1980s also gave way to the Santos Ronde. Cartier wanted to make a statement and show a character that would attract men with a bold and fearless attitude towards life. 
Encouraged by the popularity of steel sports watches, Cartier re-introduced the collection as simply the Cartier Santos in 1978. Visually it has more elongated proportions than the Santos 100; the lugs on the Galbee are slimmer and longer, relative to the case. The Cartier Santos is a collection of square-cased watches, originally designed to be used by pilots during flight. Not sure how Bruce made a comment on April 4 2020 when it is only March 2 and? The Cartier Santos traces its roots back to 1904, when Louis Cartier created a watch for his friend, daredevil and aviator Alberto Santos-Dumont. These watches were exclusively available with leather straps and with a gold folding buckle. Designed by Louis Cartier in 1904, at the request of famed Brazilian pilot Alberto Santos-Dumont, it met the need for a legible timepiece that can be worn and read during flight. Its design has remained largely consistent over the years, and all the essential characteristics remain, including the square case, bezel with eight screws, Art Deco dial with large Roman numerals, and central railroad minute track.
Rather odd sizing really.They must have been thinking of a his n hers scenario which would work perfectly.Trust me, youll need the larger of the two, which means youd better like a date.
Due to the success of Gerald Gentas Audemars Piguet Royal Oak and Patek Philippe Nautilus, Cartier saw an opportunity to enter this market, with the Santos as its chosen model.
Doesnt mean we are poor. By pressing a small oval push-piece on the underside of the links, a bar is released without the need of a screwdriver. Schedule Appointment The bracelet is really good, the screws are beautifully assimilated in the design and the Roman numerals on the dial come out very strongly. Many of their watches from this era use quartz movements. Designed to tell time legibly while being strapped to the wrist, the Santos would become one of the very first wristwatches ever created. Most Cartier Santos watches are water resistant to 30 meters, which makes them splash proof. The large looks way too large on any size wrist, as far as Im concerned. Every watch comes with one extra strap (one steel, one leather), that is easy to change. Never took too much notice of the Galbee untill your recent review. Prices for these watches range from $1,700 to $3,500, depending on the watchs model and condition. 3834 Spicewood Springs Rd. Following the success of this initial model, the Cartier Santos went on to become one of the most sought-after timepieces of the early 20th century. This trick can also be applied to watches. I am in Costa Rica and have not had Internet access in some locations. It debuted the new Santos de Cartier with not just one watch, but a collection of 13 watches in medium and large sizes. Cartier also kept up with trends when it came to movements. Depends on what youre used to. Most Santos Galbe movements come with quartz movements, but there are a few models with mechanical movements. The Santos de Cartier is a modern incarnation of the classic Santos watch. There is also a Santos 100 chronograph. A bracelet is available for the 100 but because its so much metal it is heavy and chunky, so it is not that popular. In 1998, Cartier introduced the Collection Prive Cartier Paris, a collection that revived Cartiers most iconic historical designs. 
The entire collection is built on that strong foundation and turned out to be both aesthetically and commercially interesting. W2SA0012 are more expensive at around $4,700. The Santos 100s modern nature also appears in the watchs case materials. With over 100 years of history, the Cartier Santos watch has been produced in different variations. What about Rolex 40 or 36mm day date as an example? If you prefer more modest designs, you should take a closer look at the NOMOS Tetra. They all have a beautiful case and bezel and are well designed and well priced for an iconic model.They look as good on the wrist as they do in the photos, maybe even better. On Franks wrist, in the photos with leather and blue bead bracelet, the large size its better. Personally I will choose the med-size without a doubt(my wrist is around 6.25 in). For a full rotor automatic with date and centre seconds the 2892 is thin. The Cartier Santos is not just any old watch; it is a piece of watchmaking history. By 1911, Cartier put the Santos-Dumont watch on the market, with a movement from Jaeger LeCoultre, who at the time supplied movements for Cartier watches. 2001, 29x41mm, Retail = $5,000, Width: 29 mm / Height: 41 mm / Thickness: 7 mm / Lug Width: 18 mm. Austin, Texas 78759. - SJX. All warranties are provided solely by SwissWatchExpo. Good design is always balanced, connecting all the striking visual elements in a coherent style. WSSA0017) costs closer to $8,500. From left:Santos Galbee XL, Santos 100 MM and Santos 100 LM. The 1970s saw the introduction of a new genre of watches the luxury steel sports watch. This is really one of the other secrets of this design: the size of the numerals is done very well. One particularly elegant option is the Panthre.
Both sizes sit perfectly on the wrist, and they really make a statement thatll tell youve got style and knowledge about watches. This site, including its owners, operators, and developers, is not affiliated with nor endorsed by any watch or jewelry manufacturer brand or any subsidiaries thereof, in any way. Two-tone versions like the ref. The Santos 100 has black hands filled with Luminova (but no luminous material on the dial) and hash marks for the minute track. This colour is not yet available in the mid-size version, and its not sure if that will ever happen. Santos 100 LM in steel/gold with Santos Galbee XL in steel, At right, Santos 100Carbon LM in ADLC case and titanium bezel. Instead of coming with a leather bracelet, the new design is made entirely of stainless steel. Go figure. The large one works as a casual/sports choice, while the medium (probably on a black crock strap) for more formal occasions.
Earlier this year, Cartier also introduced quite a nice new blue dial to the Santos collection. The Santos Galbe series remained part of the Cartier catalog until 2005. There are also iced-out versions of the Santos 100 with pave diamonds on the case and bezel. I was depressed that the TT looked small on my (pretty thin) wrist. 04/02/2020 at 15:48
The 1970s saw the advent of iconic luxury sports watches like the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak and Patek Philippe Nautilus. The purchase price will be the sum of your final bid plus other applicable charges, such as the buyers premium, local taxes, shipping expenses, loss damage liability fees, customs duty/import tax and any other charges that may apply. please help. The Santos de Cartier first appeared in 2018. While stainless steel versions like the ref. Cartier continued to produce the Santos-Dumont through the first half of the 20th century, but with the advent of the World War, the military requirements for round watches, and new design codes of the time, the Santos-Dumonts square design slowly declined in popularity. It brought the Santos up to speed with the larger and more robust sports watches of the time with its heftier and more angular case. 
As SJX reported, it is relatively thin. ETA-based movements drive most Santos 100 watches. In 1978, for example, the luxury brand introduced a specially-designed metal bracelet with screws matching those found on the bezel.
But the best is that you go to a Cartier boutique, try both and see which one you prefer Youll be a better judge . The new Santos is instantly recognizable, masculine, modern while still carrying that unmistakeable Cartier elegance. You have been subscribed! Bought it on the spot. It contains the MC 076 calibre which is an ETA 2671. And most buyers of them would consider those brands the alternatives.
It still is very much a statement watch. The Cartier Santos is the first true pilots watch. Unlike its sibling the 2892 in the LM is a big but slim calibre, measuring 25.6 mm (11 ) wide but only 3.6 mm high. But Cartier didnt stop with the different bracelet options. Here are the different iterations of the Cartier Santos and their key characteristics.
The condition of lots can vary widely and the nature of the lots sold means that they are unlikely to be in a perfect condition. The large version is even bigger and measures a whopping 39.8mm x 47.5mm. Both the Tank and Santos collections feature striking Art Deco dials. Admittedly, I didn't really care about watches before coming to Chrono24. I am loo By:bernard cheong:October 9th, 2011-17:03. I like each. The watches in this series all come on a high-quality alligator leather strap. A direct comparison between the large and the medium-sized Santos de Cartier raises the question: what is actually large? Guess which I bought?
For my wrist size, however, the large one would be absolutely too ostentatious for formal occasions and the medium too refined for casual/sports. You can purchase current models like the small Santos-Dumont with the reference number WSSA0023 for as little as $3,300 on Chrono24.
The average reader of this website will buy one or two a year and will often spend as much as they can afford. In-house calibers such as the Cartier Santos 100, 1847 MC, and the manual 9611 MC power these watches. One of the coolest details on the new Santos watch is the bracelet system. The Santos is a pillar of Cartiers watchmaking efforts, with several variations created over the centuries. While it retained its famous square case, the Santos boxy shape was replaced by curves around the lugs, intended to hug the wrist. on the wrist in my opinion because 1.
thank you, @Lee both are good options.
The case work is top notch. Stainless Steel head and bracelet, silver Roman dial, quartz, date, crown with spinel cabochon, Ref.
That word was rarely aerodynamics or practicality. It is also well-known for its signature exposed screws on the bezel. The buckle or deployant was another first from Cartier and for many years it was the only folding buckle in the market. In addition to traditional gold or popular stainless steel, youll also encounter carbon and titanium versions. Cartiers International Marketing and Communications Director Arnaud Carrez, who could also be called the mastermind behind the reintroduction of the Santos, told me last year that these manly sizes were a very conscious decision. The Santos-Dumont was introduced in 2004 and is closest to the original Santos timepiece from 1904. It almost always was proportion. - SJX. Is the mid-size Santos de Cartier the best option, or is it a classic poor mans choice? One of the biggest design accomplishments of the Santos is the style of the bezel. Both versions feature the calibre 1847 MC, a basic (4 Hz, 3-hand, 42-hour power reserve, date or no date) in-house developed and produced movement. (It was.) So what the designers did was to make the case and glass curvier.
Ach. That the Cartier Santos continues to be produced today, more than 100 years later, is a testament to its timeless design.
It entered series production in 1911, making the Cartier Santos both the worlds first pilots watch and the first mens wristwatch in history. All trademarked names, brands and models, mentioned on this site are the sole property of their respective trademark owners. With more than 100 years of history to look back on, there are several variants of the Santos, but all remain unmistakably part of the family.
Despite its size and weight, it wears quite comfortably thanks to the formidable bracelet (or strap, of course) and the curved case. The Tank, however, has a rectangular case rather than a square one. It is a tad smaller than the Santos 100 MM, measuring 45.54 by 34.87 mm and a mere 8.67 mm high. A large rose gold Santos-Dumont, on the other hand, will set you back closer to $11,000. This is why the LM is slimmer than the MM, despite being bigger. In addition to gold, stainless steel, and two-tone versions with three hands, the series is also home to chronographs and elaborately skeletonized models. Cartier is much more willing to experiment with new materials than with bold design alternations. I think ultimately it boils down to personal perception/preference regardless of the specific reasons given. I have not had a chance to wear an uncoated steel model, so I can only go by your and others thoughts on those models to make a comparison. The average sane person (who understands that six grand is a lot of money for a watch), will buy 2 or 3 in his lifetime. what is the wrist size of frank? Monochrome Watches: if you feel insulted, youre too poor to comment. While it originally sat in the center of the dial, it has now moved to the outer edge. The Santos XL Skeleton and Santos XL Tourbillon, on the other hand, rely on the in-house calibers 9611 MC and 9452 MC, respectively. Other Cartier Santos models from previous years are available in the pre-owned market. There is a wide selection of Santos de Cartier models available today. To me, the mid-size fits much better than the large version, but that has to do chiefly with my wrist size. Explore our collection of Cartier Santos watches at SwissWatchExpo.com.
In response to ng717s post below, here is a detailed comparison of the three steel Santos models.
This watch sets itself apart with its round dial, round case, and octagonal bezel. Datejust, Day-Date President, Presidential, Pearlmaster, Masterpiece, Submariner, Cosmograph Daytona, Explorer, Sea Dweller, GMT Master, Yacht-Master, Air King, Milgauss, Prince, and Cellini are all registered trademarks of the Rolex Corporation (Rolex USA, Rolex S.A.). For the 100th anniversary of the original Santos in 2004, Cartier launched the Santos 100, a modernized version of the Santos. The medium model still commands a notable presence on the wrist. Visit the pages of the lots you wish to place an absentee bids.
Many Santos timepieces even appreciate in value, especially those from discontinued lines. For the first year of production the watches were engraved 1904-2004 on the back, making the first year models a bit more special. The latter also supplies Cartier with their quartz movements. This is a small movement that measures only 17.2 mm (7 ) but is some 4.8 mm high, hence the relative thickness of the watch. I must say its a stunning watch with a beautiful bracelet. This model slightly enlarged the dimensions of the case and softened the edges of the lugs. Now I will look for them.
@Lee both are good options. At first glance, these two watches look remarkably similar.
If youre looking for a timepiece encrusted with gemstones, youre at the right place.
The Cartier Santos holds the distinction of being the first pilots watch and first wristwatch for men. Always felt that that XL was a smite too large, more so with the chrono ! So we went hands-on with both versions to see which of the two is actually the better one.. If you end up with one of them do post photos. Yet another sign that watch companies are becoming increadingly removed from their best customers. It featured a squarish case with angular lugs, a square dial, and long, thin Roman numerals.
The two different sizes have nothing to do with the size of the movement or any other practical reason. The XL version adds 4 mm to the case width. In another first, the bracelet was paired with a deployant, and for years was the only watch on the market with this mechanism. Thats always a bit tricky; a smaller version of any luxury product is almost always the poor mans choice. Cartier designed a flat, square-cased watch with the brands signature Roman dial. There are two lines in the current Santos collection: the Santos-Dumont and the Santos de Cartier. Each piece is carefully inspected, tested, meticulously detailed, serviced if needed, then conservatively graded and photographed in-house. This watch is definitely more at home in a casual (working) environment. In 1978, Cartier redesigned the Santos and renamed it Santos de Cartier. In 2019, Cartier expanded the line further with a Santos Chronograph and a revival of the Santos-Dumont with quartz movements. my wrist size is 7 inch. By 2018, Cartier discontinued the Santos and updated the collection. Or for that matter, small wheel rims on a sports car. The result was a more sensual shape and a better fit on the wrist. Its important to point out that my wrists arent large at all, so I might be prejudiced, but I think this size fits the Santos even better. Two sizes are available, the Santos 100 LM and MM, the Large Model and Medium Model respectively. I prefer it without the date, but would want the bigger size. It was also equipped with a leather bracelet to strap on the wrist, making it easy to read during flight. Moreover, Panthre timepieces are often encrusted with diamonds. Nevertheless, it boasts a similarly sleek, geometric look. Both the LM and MM are available in steel, as pictured, as well as steel with gold bezel, as well as solid gold and jewelled models. 2656. To understand what this watch does to your appearance, its very important to take into account what the name and fame of Cartier do to anyone wearing a watch like this. My expla if you get a chance to compare the ADLC and uncoated metal cases. Most Santos Galbee watches came with quartz movements, with a few powered by mechanical movements. There are several alternatives to the Santos in the Cartier line-up. Then theres the square dial with the instantly recognizable Roman numerals that are perfectly stretched out in the corners (that means without going too far into the edges).
In response, Cartier developed a square watch with gently curved lugs. All rights reserved. Because in the end and Cartier really deserves praise for this the choice for a bigger or smaller Santos is exactly what it should be: a matter of wrist size, not wallet size.. The watch you see is the watch you get, the condition and authenticity of our watches are never in doubt. Here are the most commonly asked questions about the Cartier Santos. Then I tried the steel version. If all the proportions in the basic design are maintained, both sizes will be equally good. The original case measured from about 24.8 x 34.8 mm, and were exclusively made in platinum or yellow gold. This was the first Santos model to feature a crown guard. Both models are virtually identical, save for the size. Moreover, you can find watches with black ADLC coating in this series. The curved case allows the watch to fit very snug, thus it does not feel like it is sitting on top of your wrist. Cartier is obviously a strong brand, and the bold design of the Santos accentuates that even more. ), The Parisians are proven masters of proportion, a skill they showcased with the Drive de Cartier; that design worked very well in both the normal and the ultra-thin version. Important: Please ensure you have read and understood the Buyers Premium Schedule prior to registering for the sale. Later models use movements made by Frdric Piguet and the Swiss bauche manufacturer ETA. Its also one of the brands most popular sport watches, ensuring steady demand for years to come. Such diversity also applies to the movements powering Santos watches. You have agreed to be bound by the Conditions of sale and if your bid is successful, you are legally obliged to pay for the lot you have won. The predecessor to the Santos de Cartier is the Santos 100. This definitely isnt the case with the Santos, where the bracelet has been an essential design element since its first edition in 1904. The small one is definitely a ladies size and is too delicate even on my tiny wrist. Normally the term mid-size is marketing slang for a ladies model, but thats definitely not the case here. Cartier also experimented with other case materials such as white gold and titanium. When it comes to real boldness, the golden Cartier Santos will make all the statements anyone will ever need. The manufacturer released stainless steel, gold, and two-tone editions of the watch, as well as both quartz and automatic models. The movement is the same ETA 2892 base as the Santos 100 LM. We strive to exceed your expectations with unbeatable prices and unmatched service. The Santos 100 ref.
Note that the steel version looks larger on the wrist than the two-tone, at least to me in separate fittings.
Like the original timepiece, this is a two-hand watch.
This gives am excellent perspective.
That means youll never see a well-designed car with equally long front and rear ends, for example. The blue really stands out, although my preference would be the slightly more elegant and classic white dial. The MM is a proportionately smaller version of the LM, though the LM is slimmer than the MM. The Santos Galbe was later updated in 2005 with the release of the Santos Galbe XL. Normally the term mid-size is marketing slang for a ladies model, but thats definitely not the case here. This is not a small accomplishment; more and more watch brands these days have exchangeable straps, but often the fixation feels a bit flimsy. Cartier is a long-established brand that focuses on timeless design, while continuing to invest in innovation and the technical upgrades of its watches. This statement piece is a little bit too much for my personal taste, but if your life motto equals Gekkos greed is good, this ber-Santos will definitely please all your senses.