The two share lots of resemblances. Jeepers, I just bought a UDM but absolutely would have bought one of those at that absurd price just to have it. Theres no Wi-Fi 6 UniFi APs or extender yet. Also on the LAN ports 3 and 4 mounted ubiquity AP would you pair with the UDR?
By the way, to have the support for all four applications mentioned above simultaneously and at their highest level, youd need to go fully professional and get the UDM-Pro or the UDM-SE. I understand the differences between 802.3af vs 802.3at, Doug. My RT-AC88U I was disappointed with I had it for about 3years and had crazy flaky issues with WAN DHCP renewal(ISP renews every 2hours ugh), flaky issues where I would have to reboot almost weekly, then I started having 2.4ghz radio issues which brought me to decommissioning it . The router performed the same with legacy devices (Wi-Fi 5 and older). Always out of stock. Most have the AP mode themselves. The design is so similar. On the other hand, the AmpliFi family, represented by the HD Wi-Fi system or the Alien, is for the home environment. Just a curiosity. The new UDR, on the other hand, supports all other three applications, but only one at a time. Yes, items can MESH to it. Thank You, Get one of these, David. Hi Dong, I was considering changing to the UDR, not so sure now The new UniFi Dream Router is a Dual-band Wi-Fi 6 router. Just curious has this router come back in stock at all recently? But its not as open as Asuss. For a device that has MORE features but a less powerful processor, i am concerned how well it performs overall in comparison. And it now has an SD card slot that only accepts a 128GB or higher-capacity card. Also, the UDR is not final yet so its hard to confirm anything. I tried this feature out, and it proved to be the best Parental Controls feature by far. How is this device different from the UniFi Dream Machine ($299 price point) that appears to be perpetually out of stock or backordered online? However, its also the least secure. I try not to buy cheap routers to avoid the issues I had with the RT-AC88U.. I am really keen to get this router and I am from NZ. (*) Update, May 24, 2022: Originally, the UDR was listed as fanless in the Early Access Store and the router was indeed silent during my months-long trial. In terms of range, or Wi-Fi coverage, the UDR was about the same as the UDM, which was excellent. They might work with 802.3af, though, but at a lower performance state. What router at home you suggest for me? There was never any disconnection, even with the beta firmware, and the router, with the production firmware, passed our 3-day stress test with flying colors. The chance this happens is probably slim considering the gigantic non-Wi-Fi alternative that is the UDM-SE. My xt8 is extremely spotty-drops Wi-Fi frequently. Id say spend some time figuring out your 86U. , Thanks for the quick followup on this! Second, how is the throughput when they are enabled? More in this post. (Again, while the UDR, like the case of the UDM, is relatively easy-to-use for advanced users, its not a device for the general home audience due to the number of advanced settings.). Do they normally restock EA items? Thanks for the tip, I feel Im pretty knowledgeable on networking gear but was unaware of this product. But more on Wi-Fi in this post, more on Gigabit-class broadband in this post, and more on testing in this post. But if you want to be serious about VPN, this protocol is the way to go. But thats a bit of a moot point since Ive never seen any home or small business that needs more than three. For a Gigabit mid-tier Wi-Fi 6 router, the Ubiquiti UDR UniFi Dream Router is as good as it gets. Length x Width x Height
Has Ubiquiti added support for vpn clients on UDR? Thats correct, David. Built-in support for all of Ubiquiti's business hardware segments (Network, Protect, Talk, and Access), Reliable Wi-Fi performance, excellent range, mesh-ready, Tons of useful networking features, comprehensive web user interface, and mobile app, Compact and beautiful design, two PoE ports, No Multi-Gig, Dual-WAN, or Link Aggregation; middling Wi-Fi specs and modest processing power; only one additional app (Talk, Protect, or Access) is supported at a time, Security feature reduces Wi-Fi 6 speed, Power over Ethernet doesn't support PoE+ or PoE++, Requires an account with UniFi, not wall-mountable, internal fan.
Also check out these Amazon deals! I initially used the UDR for a couple of months with the Early Access firmware and then with its product firmware for more than a week. After six long months, on April 26, 2022, the networking company finally, and quietly once more, made the exciting router available to the general public, now with a reasonable retail price of $199. When I go to Devices / Dream Router -> Insites it only shows 11n/a/ac (On the U6-Lite it shows 11n/a/ac/ax) and HE goes to 80, Only seeing Network and Protect applications. i have a 7000 sq ft home. Hi Subscribe! It also cant be blocked. The extra storage space facilitates the UDRs support for additional applications the router uses it to store recorded video footage or calls. This will accommodate the Access Point WiFi 6 Lite (U6-Lite-US), but not the Access Point WiFi 6 Pro (U6-Pro-US) or the Access Point WiFi 6 Long-range (U6-LR-US), which are both 802.3at PoE+ devices. My take is that it should when its finalized, David. But this default app alone is already extremely comprehensive. Seems to vary, but the Dream Machine Pro SE recently got restocked. Check out the reviews for more details. As of so far, Ive no experience with UI routers and I dont know how they fall in comparison with Foritget (too expensive for home use) or pfSense which I know pretty well. Thanks for the review. What is your recommendation? I had the same questions but Uniquiti were tight-lipped on availability. I'll dig into it and report back here. That fact doesnt change what the router supports. First implemented in Windows 95 and has been part of the Windows operating systems and many other platforms since PPTP is well supported and the easiest to use. Too late for me to reverse course on Macs. Its likely one of the last major traditional Wi-Fi 6 routers that youll see me cover. I have like OpenVPN of the Asus/Merlin because I can use the same client for multiple connection I use the VPN from work mainly to get to my home network.. The UniFi family represented by the Dream Machine (UDM), UDM-Pro, UDM-SE, or the Dream Router (UDR) aims at business/pro users. So I cant run Protect cameras AND Talk phones . Thanks for the reply. More about PoE in this post. This is incorrect. Look forward to your getting your hands on them and your review with the UDR. All Ubiquiti network hardware of both UniFi and AmpliFi families requires a login account and remains connected to the vendor to work, whether you choose to use the mobile app or the web user interface. Still hesitant to go back to ASUS due to the 2.4 radio failure.. for a Wifi6 mesh AP and the AP If the UDR will be close UDM-Pro rather than UDM it will fulfill my requirements. First, does it have the same IDS/IPS features as the UDM or Pro? And it does in most cases, which ultimately depends on whether the local network of the remote device allows it to pass through. Generally, all Wi-Fi routers can work as an access point, its a matter of how to set that up. Can it do dual WAN? So, its fair to say the Dream Router is late to the Wi-Fi 6 game. ), Thanks for the links I will dig deeper, I just dont get why the ISP router being inferior with no wifi 6 would give me better numbers than the asus with wifi 6 and better specs. If you appreciate the intricacies of networking and are happy with the Gigabit grade, get a Ubiquiti UDR today! That's cheaper than their base WiFi 6 AP. VPN: Ubiquiti Teleport vs Asus Instant Guard, Best Routers for a Multi-Gig wired network, Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Router: A more refined approach to the UniFi ecosystem for the home, Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Router (UDR) vs Dream Machine (UDM): A bit of a misnomer, UniFi: An ecosystem of multiple applications, Ubiquiti UDR vs UDM: Hardware specifications, Ubiquiti UDR: A comprehensive enterprise-grade (network) controller, Tons of Wi-Fi and network configuration, mesh-ready, Excellent traffic management and VPN support, Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Router (UDR)'s Rating. I replaced it with a black Friday deal I got on the cheap for a Netgear MR60 mesh system(YAK) which I know is lower end, but firmware updates seem to cause issues almost every month.. Can you connect and route all network traffic or a segment of your network via a vpn provider like ExpressVPN, etc. And Apple got out of networking years ago, for good reason.
Generally, if you choose to use Merlin, youre on your own. Like this one: https://dongknows.com/synology-rt2600ac-mesh-router-review/. My Synology WiFi 5 router and mesh have been rock solid in a rental. At the core, both the UDM and the UDR are UniFi controllers designed to be the root device that powers an UniFi ecosystem of different hardware segments and feature sets called applications.. Unfortunately, also like the case of the UDM, turning on the UDRs threat detecting feature will force the router to throttle down its Wi-Fi throughout. Is there any WiFi extenders available that could extend WiFi range but still use the isps WiFi router/gw? Because it has a (spec wise) less powerful processor. is underperforming becuz it is it just worked. The speeds varied but it was rare that I saw faster-than-500Mbps rates when roaming around the house. The latest firmware the UniFi OS version 2.4.9, which took the UDR out of the Early Access has many improvements. I was waiting for it to be in stock and signed up for email alert (of course didnt get notification of in stock..). Thats the deal. I loved the configurability of the Merlin firmware it had pretty much all the functionality I wanted. Third, i am concerned with how this device overall performance is. It sounds like it doesnt have a built in controller and you just use the phone app to control it like an AP in standalone mode. In any case, with the UDR, Ubiquiti has streamlined its UniFi family a great deal. Hi new to the realm here and appreciate all your great info. But all of them should last. When i follow the link I get a message stating that it is only available to early access users, but I did sign up for this. The Network application is the default and available in all UniFi controllers. As a mid-tier router that has no Multi-Gig port, the UDR delivered! In fact, you can consider it the best Wi-Fi 6 router for those with a sub-Gigabit broadband connection. More on it here.
Wish I could demo a Synology router lol to see if I like it. I knows its EA so perhaps something that will be worked out in future software updates? No way that $79 price sticks. I have three studios with multiple Macs, Mac-native audio ware and while i absolutely have a love-hate relationship with Apple cant foresee a Windows platform in my future for the rest of my career. Wanna go ad-free? For an ASUS main router? Itll be secure enough and the firmware is great, John. , Thanks for the opinion!! I tried that with the BeaconHD extender, and the process was painless. Has there every been an early access product discounted so much? I dont have the authority to say how long something lasts, David. You might not have everything youd like from it, but you sure will get more compared to any other home Wi-FI router of the same price point.
Would you say this unit is good enough for day to day use? In return, it has eight times more built-in flash storage space than its older cousin. I tested the UDR both with and without the Threat Detection feature turned on and experienced a marked difference in its Wi-Fi 6 performance, as you will note on the charts. As for what it does with that connection, only the company would know as (hopefully) stated in the privacy policy. They state the UDM-Pro can do up to 7gb of throughput. Hope youll catch it. Thanks Dong, 84 looks OK In fact, Im just waiting for the delivery of 2x U6-Pro (Im replacing my 2x UAP-AC-Lr), so Im looking for a home UTM with 1Gbs throughput.
Never have to reboot ever. And it's gone. I have also been checking a few times per day. I will be using for Roku/Apple TV apps streaming and gaming with Wifi Cams. But Wi-Fi range depends greatly on the environment, so your mileage will vary. I can almost promise that youll love it. Heres Ubiquitis privacy policy. With my UDM-Pro, with all settings enabled, i am able to achieve over 1gb (with its 10gb SFP WAN port) with no issues. Does it phone home too? I really need more than the low throughput with Threat Protection, and the ancient L2TP VPN that Ubiquity is offering. 2 quick questions on this router: Get an Asus i reviewed here, Mike. Not everyone managed to snatch one since the router kept running out of stock. It should be, Artur, as long as you accept the overheads. But i always recommend a wired connection for simplifying Power and allowing for full throughput to the AP. And yes its been back in stock multiple times. And Wi-Fi 7 is also around the corner. I used mostly this app in the testing since I didnt have the need or the hardware for the Protect, Talk, or Access. You dont need to turn PoE off to use a PoE port with a non-PoE device. And the UDRs PoE port will work with any active PoE devices of the 803af standard. I decided to test it again, and when I pressed its underside against my ear, I could hear something spinning inside. The router has always been completely silent, though, even during hot days. I ordered one today before it sold out again. What are you trying to get out of the testing, Joe? Those numbers are faster than anything youd need. And it wont make sense for me to use the router for myself, considering my 10Gbps Fiber-optic broadband. If you really want 1Gbps, Id recommend getting a Multi-Gig router. Reading the comments I ran across the Synology wifi6 which looked interesting, and I admin multiple synology NASs So which ASUS, UDR, UDM, Synology would you suggest for me? UniFi and AmpliFi are two major networking product lines from Ubiquiti. Press J to jump to the feed. However, you can just use the default settings in most cases and make gradual changes as your needs grow. that support PoE can the power be turned OFF on those 2 ports if using as simple LAN ports? Like the case of the UDM, the UDR has a well-designed Traffic Management section. Do you know if we can migrate the current configuration & settings to UDR from my UDM ? Chances are the UDR wont cut it. Its also the only one the old UDM has. That said, if you have sub-Gigabit broadband, the router will generally deliver. Thank you for the review! Do we know when that will be? Cant wait to see you do a comparison test. I wanted to ask you about the Ubiquiti UDR relative to that, but also a note that i wondered whether you could clarify. The only way right now is via the EA store, M. Typo in Cons section: EDIT: Well, my $79 UDR shipped! (More about VPN here by the way.) in the online store they do not write anything about it and the processor has only a dual-core. You need to use an 802.3at injector with a non-PoE port. Almost completely happy with it. I will be replacing a TP Link AC1750. Id also be interested in a comparison. Its the same as the size of the UDM. Want close to see close to a Gig on your mobile device? Does ubiquiti still sell these as EA in EU for public testing? Though the new cost makes it no longer a phenomenal deal, the UDR proved in my hands-on experience to still be the genuine dream router for many. Expected Tuesday. One note for your readers who are outside the US (Im in Canada) But if the UDR and Flex Wifi 6 actually perform better without bogging down when higher bandwidth is needed, i would rather hold out instead of buying twice. Please allow ads when visiting Dong Knows Tech!Ads pay for the sites free and No-Nonsense content.
With the Dream Router, i saw no mentions on their site IF it had the same security features as the the UDM or the UDM Pro. Do you have any updates on this? But yes, the UDR (as well as the UDM) is more about features than sustained speeds. Want more? Is there any way to get the UDR in Canada at the moment? Love one cloud management to rule all my Synology devices. I need to have some special configuration for a real-time audio software app in a studio that calls for static-IP and port forwarding. Have you been able to confirm this? Generally, if youre so hung up with your Mac, youll have problems with Wi-Fi since Apples devices are pretty horrible they are designed to work well only with other Apple devices. While I did snag one at $79, its almost certainly a pricing mistake. i do not need this, but for $80, I logged in and was ready to purchase. I use it for my home. I think theyve had 2 wifi 6 APs out. The UDM is the first UniFi product that also works well as a home router, thanks to the friendly design. You have to wait for the full review to find out, Ross. Overall, the UDR is built for home environments or small offices it has just enough power without going overboard. But I agreed with Ubiquiti not to publish any testing until the router is finalized. Ive been happy with it. To be fair, almost all other business solutions have this kind of cloud-based remote access. So if your business has a spike of attacks from, say, Russia, you can choose to block all incoming traffic from that country. As for how it performs, well have to wait till its finalized. They are simple Wi-Fi routers, ease-to-use but with a limited feature set. One thing I didnt put in my post is reliability The reason I was wanting to go with UI products is we have had ZERO issue with our UI APs at work in like 6 years of use I understand that the UDM UDR are all in ones so heat is probably more of an issue with durability of the radios Out of the list would you think would last 5 years? Or should I ask is there a time range based on other products that have come via their EA cycle? With the old Extreme, the upload even on ethernet devices is throttled at around 300mbps at bestalthough its getting the full 20mbps upload speed and then some which actually is an important factor for the audio streaming software im usingoptimal upload-speed is equally vital to stable connections with radio and TV stations I work with when doing broadcast-quality transmission back/forth Thanks for any thoughts! What are your general thoughts on the devices processing power? Wi-Fi 6 explained: Its real speeds and improvements. I dont want to setup UDR from scratch. Short for point-to-point tunneling protocol, PPTP is the oldest among the three. I gotta believe others have had no issues with an Asus in a Mac OS environment this was just an incidental thing i noticed. I need it for the courier company which can redirect parcel from US to NZ. Not even close to almost every Jimmy. For example, in the Network department, the new router can support up to 15 access points while the UDM can handle up to 40.
The weird thing is that wifi speeds are about 200Mbs slower than when I connect to the ISP router, so if I hit 750mbs from an iphone 13 pro on ISP I get max 500 or less on the asus router, I do have trendmicro activiated but even with a fresh factory default and it`s the same story, it drives me crazy, I bought recently a Wifi Pro 6 Unifi AP, slightly better performance than asus but still slower than the ISP router, its connected via a CAT7 STP and gig lan port to the ISP, by these benchmarks I dont know if I will be pleased with this router and with the flexibility that merlin gives, but you have them both, could you give some insight? Hi, been reading some reddit reports that it cannot handle gig internet speeds, maxing out at ~700Mbps. The lite and LR. Or would I get a different message? Agreed.
Not entirely ruling out the Asus but for some like me, a lot of this back-end knowledge is daunting and a foreign language as its simply not in my wheelhouse of expertise and given the opportunity id have someone set it up for me: ) That said, I really want the maximum bang for buck in terms of robust wifi, optimal up/download speeds to get the most out of a 400mbps plan with 20mbps upload. I speak from experience the Ubiquiti UniFi Dream Router is another example of how we cant have everything. As for your other question, I cant confirm or deny it. Hi Dong, I appreciated your recommendation of the Asus and thus far have found it rather daunting to navigate the set-up process right out of the box Im used to ridiculously simple interfaces such as, say, the Airport Extreme Im attempting to replace. I really hope we see the Synology RT6600ax soon. I use it with LT2P/IPSEC, OpenVPN, and Synology SSL VPNs. That generally is available in UniFi routers, Eddie. Wonder if you can do a mesh with 2 or more. My priority per another post is stability and capability for live audio streaming software that my studio relies on. 802.3at, can i ADD another 802.3at PoE on top of or in line with the port 3 or 4 802.3af or will adding 2 inline 802.3af and at interfere w each other? You can block incoming traffic by the IP addresses, and you can even do that by countries or regions of the world. 1. Im confused; does the talk application need to be running for the phones to work? Did anyone who managed to get this at $79 actually get one? If you like your Synology NAS experience, Id go with them. And the compact and eye-catching design doesnt hurt. The Ubiquiti UDR will not. Get one as soon as you can before it runs out of stock again. For all i know once its set up properly the noise thing would go away(whatever it is?) It can do a lot, Aaron, similar to the Synology but different. Still, Ubiquitis UniFi products can be overwhelming and overkill in many cases.
Question; I had a RT-AC66U & RT-AC88U both running Merlin.. You have UDR so is it possible for you to do a throughput test with IDS enabled, please? I wish I could. This review will make you feel extremely disappointed because the UDR has no Multi-Gig port. Mike in Mich. Hello, thank you for this excellent article. Yes, it is, Franck. (Convert one of the LAN ports to secondary WAN). https://dongknows.com/tag/asus/. Ill update the post as I know more. By the way, this is not a review of the UDR. No luck here. Thats disappointing for sure, as I mentioned in the review, Adam. No, youd need one UDR and a few UniFi access points. 