It is unclear why you think avoiding animal products does not benefit animal?? The barn is best though during the winter months so they can keep dry , Ok, lets face it, most of your milk does not come from tiny family farms (even so, that milk is still robbed from her baby) but if there was not pus in milk THEN WHY DOES THE FDA ALLOW FOR 750 MILLION PUS CELLS PER LITER. There are interviews on youtube from activists who took part in these operations who have come out and admitted the tactics they use.. To counter bobs myths bull calves go to beef ranches where they are raised. Mastitis can also occur as a result of chemical, mechanical, or thermal injury. It is clear that not only is this horrible invasive practice acceptable to you but totally justified. Why is it ok to do this to another species when its not healthy or beneficial to either the cow or consumer? I grew up on it. No mastitic milk ever leaves the dairy. thank you for your time and hopefully answers . And I can confirm that sick cows are separated from the herd and that their milk is flushed. And so so impressed that you came back to share your experience. You try to breed the strong bulls to the weak cows to give them the strength they need. dead white blood cells which are in milk. It is all about bringing balance. We all know the benefits you enjoy ($$$$$$$) from your mutual relationship with your cows. Its hard work and Cows dont take the Weekends off, so its a 24/7 , 365 days a year job. Of course your comment will appear!! Additionally, all milk is tested on farm and at the processing plant for antibiotic residues; if residues are detected, all contaminated milk is discarded and the farmer responsible pays a hefty fine. But the C.D.C. Contributing time, energy, resources towards making an actual change in the world. Rather than denying its existence, a better question for you to answer Dairy Guy would be how does so much pus, which is produced in sores in response to infections, get onto dairy in the first place? Theres plenty more vegetables that are the same. Like all mammals, cows produce milk after giving birth. After milking teats cleaned and antiseptic applied. Maybe you hug them, give them special treats and even give them a day off every now and again for all the hard work they do for you. But some cows can get a very severe case, and the infection can get out of control. We use a natural remedy with vitamins that helps boost the cows immune system so they can fight the infection naturally. Somatic cell count IS NOT pus. I have lots of respect for Dairy farmers. Typically about 80% of farms in our province receive a quality bonus each month. Dead white cells are pus. Sorry this is so long, but I hope you find it interesting. pus in milk snopes. Infection and pus need not be present for there to be white blood cells. I think what you mean is that we are the only species that can drink another species milk. There is however, money in dairy farming. The other guy just wipes off the udder with a dirty rag and keeps milking. There are many people who are animal farmers. We only treat the animals when they are sick not when they are healthy. Your only representing your tiny (probly imaginary) farm. Ping pong is an activity that uses a ball, therefore ping pong is football and is an activity that carries a high risk of injury including that 1 in 100 participants will suffer a concussive injury.. AND they will sometimes mix it with cows blood from a nicked vein. can earn additional bucks every month with new monetization method. Since salt contains chlorine and swimming pools contain chlorine, when you go swimming you are actually swimming in table salt. Seek Christ Jesus and the kingdom of Heaven and all shall be added on to you. I assume they are trapped, fenced in and cannot just wander off if they have had enough.Do you ever wonder if keeping animals against their will may be morally wrong? Somatic cells do not equal pus. The reality is that cows that are given the best care are the most profitable. I am a dairy farmer, did you read my about me page! Pus is made up of dead white blood cells, dead skin cells, and bacteria, not one type of cell. Im sorry, but the blog of a dairy farmer, if thats what you actually are, is not a non-biased source of information when it comes to this issue. This accurate definition from Wikipedia sums up mastitis clearly and succinctly: Mastitis occurs when white blood cells are released into the mammary gland, usually in response to an invasion of bacteria of the teat canal. According to Wikipedia: Mastitis occurs when white blood cells (leucocytes), are released into the mammary gland, usually in response to an invasion of bacteria of the teat canal. So eat and drink what you want to. The goal of the agricultural industry is to sustain human life and livelihood. Thanks for the info. And finally, almost all text that I have read about dairy and meat consumption causing health issues and cancers are in comparison to developing countries that are too poor to consume them. i dont care .. not your milk !! You exploit animals every day for cash and end their lives when you choose. And white blood cells are pus.. with the added doh is an amazing comment! Then it depends on the cellular concentration of pus. A bowl of Broccoli has as much calcium and protein as a cup of milk, and its digestible. It is all dependent on her age. I urge anyone to purchase organic or nonorganic milk and bring a sample to a laboratory of your choice, and if the test results come back with 0% pus I will personally eat a steak and cheese sandwich gross Its not gross. Other indications of mastitis may be abnormalities in milk such as a watery appearance, flakes, or clots. Reading this definition, one can almost understand why a person not familiar with procedures and practices on a dairy farm could be led to believe that there is pus in milk, especially after reading false statistics claiming widespread incidences of mastitis in dairy cows. Of course, they dont want you to believe it! And your point is well-taken about organic milk and not being able to treat mastitis in those cows with anti-biotics. Its author, vegan YouTuber Sonia Sae, also invites internet users to consider that any plant based milk will be healthier and more ethical than cow's breastfeed milk.. You also need vitamin D and look theyre all in milk. Answer From Julie Baughn, M.D. Some day you will be looked upon with the shame of any slave owner. An udder infection called mastitis is very common in dairy cows and causes pus to leach into milk. Pus is very rarely green, it is usually white or yellow. Genetic manipulation is not a bad thing.. Pasteurized milk is raw milk that has been heated to a specified temperature and time to kill pathogens that may be found in the raw milk. Im probably not going to convince you, but talk to a dairy farmer, even visit a farm if you can. So if there is no pus (one letter s) in milk then there is no pus in cheese either. Do you even have pets? The comparisons youre making are plainly ridiculous. Thats weird because milk supposedly strengthens bones? There are several former dairy and other animal farmers who have quit the business and become vegan. You can read my previous article on fat to learn about the nutrition misconceptions that have caused the health epidemic today. Cows today are treated so much better than in the past. **A cow enjoying her dry, comfortable bedding**, The cows also have the luxury of taking a shower before every milking. Liliana Peralta, director of the food engineering department at La Salle University in Bogota, Colombia, told AFP that what is written in the image caption about whitening milk doesnt happen, (this process) doesnt exist!. Typically they are given a few months to rest which is different than in nature. Mastitis will cause actual pus due to infection. Basically, the snake-oil salesman is not going to tell you that his product is harmful to your health, unbelievably cruel to animals and is destroying the entire planet. Dairy farmers actually try to improve the quality of life, health, and longevity of the cows. This test shows the level of somatic cells in a sample of milk. Milk really has got the lot! Well I will just let you decide. So, denying that white blood cells are in fact pus makes you look silly and uneducated, which I dont believe you are. We keep their stalls full of fresh, clean bedding; we clean the barns of manure multiple times per day; we utilize sanitary practices during the milking of each cow; we ensure that our milking equipment is properly maintained and serviced, and we apply an antibacterial teatprotecting dip after milking when the open teat end could allow the entry of bacteria. I consume dairy, but you are totally off base and not very educated on the facts. More recently, Sae's post gained a new virality in Spanish-speaking corners of the internet. They weird fact is that the better care we take of the animals and the earth, the better our yields and returns. Remember farmers are humans too. Thank you for explaining the milk puss myth. Living on vegetables is impossible unless you buy your food from factories that process and refine your food in unnatural ways. is not calling for any changes to its recommended best practices for cleaning pump parts, which the agency says can either be done by hand or in the dishwasher, if the pump kit . This has happened in the last 2 years. Advantages and disadvantages of pesticides. The problem is you are not honest about what you do to animals and you seek to blame others. You should test some milk, and let me know your results. Dairy guy, Id appreciate your honest answers to my questions as I seek for more clarification on milk. Maybe youre the DUMBASS if you believe what a dairy farmer says. We will see who survives longer. For example, if you read an article on . n. A generally viscous, yellowish-white fluid formed in infected tissue, consisting of white blood cells, cellular debris, and necrotic tissue. In Canada, the maximum allowable limit for somatic cells in milk is 400 000. Could it possibly be that a cows physiology did not evolve over millions of years to be continually milked day-after-day, by the likes of you, without consequences, and that the painful sores on a cows teats are viewed as an acceptable part of your business? This is blatant exploitation not mutually beneficial evolution, or cant you see that? pushers: vegans and animal rights extremists (i.e. A clean udder means less chance of bacteria getting in the cows udder. So if mum gets mastitis, which the majority of mums will experience at some point, the amount of somatic cells increases to fight the condition. @The Dairy Guy. You eat them trillions of them in meat and nobody is complaining about them. They tell their stories and they believed they treated their animals well. Every time the cow is milked, her udder is first cleaned with an antimicrobial lotion. Because of the mastitis epidemic in the U.S. dairy herd, the dairy industry continues to demand that American milk retain the highest allowable somatic cell concentration in the world. Thanks for your comment. How long in years do your dairy cows live who are forced to give milk?. Its always in our best interest at the dairy to prevent cows from getting ill, but it inevitably does happen. But thats just the world we live in where animals are bred specifically for food humans have just evolved so much now that we arent natural anymore! How about when the cows are relaxing peacefully in the barns or the times the cows come up and give you a big lick. What are Honda Odyssey seats made of. They flood the internet with staged videos of abuse which I also find disgusting. humans are the only stupid animal who drink another species milk after they have weaned off mommys breast. Why would you post that to support the idea of animal activists causing suffering? You can find plenty of non-vegan material actually showing you the reality of dairy farming also. Once a cow has recovered and her milk has tested clear of antibiotic residues, her milk is once again shipped to the processing plant. Yes PETA does euthanize But just like David Koresh was an extremist, it doesnt mean all Christians are bad i feel like this is fake, i drink milk like every day every second and i dont get sick. I read the article and understand what you wrote. Symptoms that may accompany pus include swelling, pain, and fever. For those familiar with breastfeeding, youll know that humans too can develop mastitis. One day, a poor boy who was selling goods from door to door to pay his way through school, found he had only one thin dime left, and he was hungry. Somatic cell count, according to the industrys own National Mastitis Council, reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows, but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. Because so many cows have infected udders, pus is in all milk. Your critic above not only gets her facts wrong about pus but her statement about milk not being a healthy drink flies in the face of decades of research (and, no, not all of it is milk industry funded). Is there any truth in this stuff Dairy Guy? PETA). Pus in milk snopes. Here is your argument: Pus is a liquid that forms in infected tissue. It is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT that the hormones put in cows make ALL of them sick HENCE WHY ANTIBIOTICS ARE USED in 100% of them. The dairy guy is a cow farmer Cows are his living. Thats a pretty high incentive to make sure farms are in compliance. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. Otherwise, they wouldnt be able to continuously rape the cows, steal their babies and all their milk, and beat them when they dont cooperate. A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. Broccoli will have be hurling for hours and on fluids for 4 days. Im rooting for you! Somatic cells are not puss. Dont worry, these calves get treated no differently than the females and colostrum is a must. Subtracting the 200,000 that could be present in nonmastitic milk and subtracting the non-inflammatory fraction (10%) leaves us with 21,600 neutrophils per ml, and multiplying that by the volume of milk in a cup (237ml) comes out to be about 5 million neutrophils per cup. If anything is detected, its flushed immediately and never leaves the farm. I dont know what farm you visited, but on our farm and every other farm Ive visited the cows are given the best care, and treated with respect. Yes, cows can get mastitis. All they need is some rest. The screenshot circulating on Facebook was taken at3:29 of the video, when the pink liquid from one of the cows arrives in the transparent container. Keep in mind that white blood cells are in all animal products. You also eat ligaments, red blood cells, arteries, ect. The photo in Sae's post is a screenshot of a video posted in December 2013 by a dairy farmer from Gloucestershire, in England. If you care about their well-being there are ways that you can contribute. Howard Lyman, a 4th generation cattle rancher, thought he treated his animals well, then got ill and became vegan and spoke out against his industry for what it did. You sound just a bit too good to be true, my dairy farming friend. The U.S. dairy industry, however, insists that there is no food safety risk. You seem like a decent guy who works hard to take care of your cattle which is refreshing. Again ? So theres definitely some encouragement to do the best jobs possible. I dont even know where to start, but i will encourage you to do more research. In the dairy industry, their milk and babies are stolen from them, all so that humans can consume an unhealthy "product." The term rape rack is a term created by activists to evoke emotion in you, but its not even a real thing. Just keep putting it off , No response to the above question? when eating meat. Other times, antibiotic treatment is necessary. Thanks to its nutritional value, colostrum can also be processed and sold as a dietary supplement for human use. Hmm also, you need to take in magnesium in order to get the smallest benefit from animal milk. Im frustrated though by all these things people write. Todays dairy cows endure annual cycles of artificial insemination, pregnancy and birth, and mechanized milking for 10 out of 12 months (including 7 months of their 9-month pregnancies). As you care so much, I am curious to know what you think your cows get out of a life trapped on your farm? If nature intended animals to never be used by humans, why did nature intend that humans would exist that would use animals for food, drink, and clothing? Spread facts but youre wrong about animal rights, so maybe keep your opinions to yourself, ya? The farmer further explains that one of the cows has a little bit of blood on its udders due to a blood vessel rupture, and that milking it would likely result in a pinkish liquid. Two thirds of the population cannot properly digest milk due to the lack of proper enzymes which decrease after weaning. Thumbs up to AbbyJ. If mastitis were rampant, aiming for an incidence level of less than 2% per month wouldnt be feasible. In the U.S., the Food and Drug . So, the next time you are elbow deep in a cows vagina, please tell me how normal and natural it feels. A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. Im afraid I do not have the individual capacity to house retired animals but I do make a regular contribution to an animal sanctuary that rescues exploited animal from farms like yours so, challenge accepted! Catch up with Dr. Greger at one of his live speaking engagements: Due to the pandemic, my speaking tour has been postponed until the release of my next book in 2024. Feeding someone and ensuring their health just so you can keep them captive to exploit them is wrong. Users can access and consult this website and use the share features available for personal, private, and non-commercial purposes. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hey, stupid people who stay away from milk because of ethical reasons, I would trade my condition with you in a heartbeatway to many beneficial things with milk, There are actually a few options- lactose free milk (they add the lactase enzyme to breakdown lactose before you drink it) and FairLife milk (filters out the lactose). Antibiotics are used responsibly though, and no antibiotics ever get in the milk. An udder infection called mastitis is very common in dairy cows and causes pus to leach into milk. If there were any credible health risks involved, we would definatly know about them. Does this article apply only to organic muck ? pus: [ pus ] a protein-rich liquid inflammation product made up of leukocytes , cellular debris, and a thin fluid called liquor puris . All rights reserved. It wouldnt just be some fanatics claiming milk isnt healthy when they have never seen or studied mastitis. America consumes the most dairy in the world, yet America also has the most people diagnosed with osteoporosis, by the way long time vegans dont get osteoporosis like dairy consumers. Cultures like the Massai practically exist on milk, and heart disease and osteoporosis are non-existent. They have studies and statistics by state to show you have many million pus cells you are drinking. They conspired to justify their barbaric and inhumane behaviour. Somatic cell count, according to the industrys own National Mastitis Council, reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows, but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. This is completely idiotic and is completely manipulated. Absolutely not. Turning dairy cows into milk machines has led to epidemics of so-called production-related diseases, such as lameness and mastitis (udder infections), the two leading causes of dairy cow mortality in the United States. Your PETA claim is silly and bogus as they are in no way the official standard bearer of animal rights; in fact many animal rights folks as you like to call em, are opposed to PETA. Somatic cell count, a measurement of the amount of white blood cells, IS NOT a measurement of pus. At the dairy, it is our goal to make sure the cows have a dry and comfortable bed. Good luck my friend! Gosh I just wish they would all go away. This is what they sell you. The bedding in the stalls is routinely added to make sure their beds are nice and full. How are you making the world a better place for cows? Watching people make such egregious accusations and personal attacks is telling. Football is an activity that carries a high risk of injury, including that 1 out of 100 participants will suffer a concussive injury. Which the author admits are caused by infection. Avoiding it does nothing for the world- it is an illusory contribution. There are examples of cow breeds living in the wild today that evolved over millions of years, and the selectively bred domesticated cows you exploit are of course decedents of theirs. An Emulator is a PC application that acts as whatever console is chosen. So ants can have mutually beneficial relationships with other animal species, but humans cannot? Milk is milk and meat is meat. End of story. You can read my post about SCC https://www.dairymoos.com/what-is-somatic-cell-count/. Good to have it explained so clearly by you. Somatic cell count is a measure of white blood cells that are present in the milk. 6) are your dairy cows grain fed or grass fed? , Sorry. I believe most vegans like me are just doing things which we think are right and we never force people to do anything. I am not being paid by anyone to write this blog, I do it because I want to spread truth about what we really do on the farm. Furthermore when cows do come down with this illness, we move them out of the milking string to a separate hospital pen where they can receive treatment and rest. After treatment, most cows experience a prompt and speedy recovery. So I can no longer drink milk. Then it depends on the cellular concentration of pus. Milk must be tested for all of these things (in the U.S. anyway) before being sent to market. Where do you get information like that? And I can tell you that vegans are very ignorant when it comes to information that doesnt harmonize with their philosophy. Well, cheese comes from milk. Foods to eat during a pus infection: Soup Cereal, oatmeal, and rice are also good options. Ridiculous isnt it! even if its proven to have detrimental effects on health, but since its more important to keep on sustaining fat men in suits who dont give a rats behind about health issues, we keep on contributing to the death and slavery of millions of cows. We all remember the Humane Society of the United States investigation showing sick and crippled dairy cows being beaten and dragged into the California dairy cow slaughter plant en route to the national school lunch program, triggering the largest meat recall in history. It doesnt matter the size, dairy farms are not factories. The same thing occurs with pus: it is possible for an ill cow to give milk that contains pus, but those cows are separated from the herd and their production is thrown away, the professor said. Breastfeed milk with BLOOD and PUS. If you fail 3 times, you will be shut down and will lose your license to produce milk. But this milk cant be sold and regulations (of the dairy industry) mandate that it be discarded. Milk is tested both on farm and at the processing plant, and one of the tests run is called a somatic cell count test. Is mastitis rampant in the dairy industry? These cows were not abused or mistreated in any way whatsoever. Mastitic milk is never green! Thanks Matt for the positive comment. The legal limit in the UK is 400 million pus cells per litre. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. As in: how he makes it through his life. The purposeful conflating the two is a transparent semantic distortion. Its nothing to be grossed out about. So there is small amount of pus in our milk, but will there be less in the red low fat milk.. , You clearly didnt read the debunked myth! According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. After the cow is milked, the lotion is applied a second time to make sure the cows udder stays bacteria free. But I no longer drink it often in exchange for almond or soy milk because of issues like these. Think about it farmers are just like you, they have a heart. But what I will say is for 5 years I have lived dairy free and my blood work is amazing, as the dr put it. Ok, Ive read all these comments and see there is a far right and a far left. The same applies with dairy cows; if they arent healthy they arent producing as much milk as they could be. myth that is nearly always pushed by people who want you to stop drinking milk . The farms work hard to make sure the milk is clean and safe for human consumption. So every time the cow is milked, each quarter of the cows udder is checked by hand before the machine is attached. You talk like they chose this life and somehow agreed to be part of your money-making operation. But farmers will not breed a cow until she has recovered from her previous calving. Dairy products such as milk or yogurt (except for people who have dairy allergies) because they provide natural sugars that your body needs when fighting off an infection. I dont! Also I dont have or own a dairy farm ( did I ever mention? Can you explain why only the WBCs and epithelial cells would pass into the milk, but the Staph A and Strep A bacterial cells that most commonly cause mastitis would not? Ive never even met a human mother who has had mastitis. Required fields are marked *. Copyright AFP 2017-2023. Interested to know. A healthy cow with no underlying infection will have a low somatic cell count (SCC). Also, simply making money off of something (people need to make a living after all) doesnt change what the actual science has to say, or what reality is. Milk-secreting tissue, and various ducts throughout the mammary gland are damaged due to toxins by the bacteria. These health problems are caused by our whole diet. I am actually just a real dairy farmer explaining reality. Its insulting that you say I lie though. If theres no puss in milk then why is there an acceptable limit . How is it that you think I can better contribute to their wellbeing other than opposing what you do? When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. That does not even make sense. Wan. Plus, if someone is trying to convince you to be scared of any particular food, whether its milk, sugar, aspartame, etc. i do however think that the life of many dairy cows probably isnt very nice particularly the ones which produce milk at rock bottom prices.. He decided he would ask for a meal at the next. One of the biggest misconceptions I read about milk online today is that milk has pus in it. Believe it or not, cows sometimes get sick! Many of these people could have the evidence presented to them on a platter and theyll still rather believe the myths cuz ah red it on the Facebook!. I mean honestly people have been drink milk for God know how long. Besides, it contains casein which is addictive and that is why people cant stop eating dairy. Oh and about pus. Some of the commenters here: RUDENESS. Your humor and willingness to engage is beautiful to behold. 5) do the Bobby calves on your farm get to feed from mum or are they removed immediately and the colostrum bottle fed? The study he uses to "prove" his case notes that the iodine used to clean a cow's udder is a good preventative practice and works effectively. The goal of animal activists is to have animals be free as nature intended and not to be used by humans. However it doesn't happen very often at all. It is much more than selecting production qualities, it is about balancing all aspects of the cow. Milk is not even healthy nor can we absorb the calcium countless studies show that the rate of OSTEOPOROSIS IS HIGHEST IN COUNTRIES THAT CONSUME THE MOST DAIRY likewise those counties with considerably less dairy consumption had significantly less osteoporosis. I would challenge you to make real change happen in the world, use your resources. Too funny! Its your choice to choose who you believe. If the infection is not too virulent, hot compresses and massages and stripping out the milk from the infected part of the udder can sometimes help the cow get rid of the infection on her own. Mastitis will only causethe milk to be watery, or have flakes or clots. Swimming pools are filled with water treated with chlorine and therefore contains chlorine. Rachel how many cows have you funded for retirement in a pasture. (more here). PS: With my Fall speaking tour ramping up this week, Im going to have to scale back to just a new NutritionFacts.org video every weekday given my unreliable internet access on the road. 1) do you artificially inseminate your cows? Its not even an argument.. If you did I can say your keeping your dog or cat as a slave. Like all white blood cells, they fight infection so an elevated somatic cell count indicates that the cow is fighting some sort of infection, such as mastitis. Thankful for people who dont ignore the truth, regardless of how ugly it is. blue pus pus with a bluish tint, seen in certain suppurative infections, the color occurring as a result of the presence of an antibiotic pigment (pyocyanin) produced by Pseudomonas aeruginosa. It's actually one of the most regulated and tested foods in the grocery store. worst thing is, people keep thinking milk is good because some a-hole with a degree says its so.
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